Beware of the ‘Boogeyman’ that is the BKI

The Broadcast Piece:

Last week Radio 4 on the BBC broadcasted a piece titled Sikh Terror – the UK Connection. The piece was produced by Amardeep Bassey as an investigation into possible terror links within the UK Sikh community. You can download the 40 minute report by clicking here.

bki.jpgDespite other bloggers believing that criticism of the piece by Bassey somehow emboldens the enemies, my feeling is that is as stupid as saying “Youre with us or with the terrorists.” However, those that cannot begin the process of internal discussion within the community are guilty of the same stupidity.

I have major problems with Basseys portrayal. To interview Ajay Sahni and claim him from the independent Institute of Conflict Management in New Delhi, the same organization that is headed by the Butcher of Punjab – KP Gill, flies in the face of all Sikhs. The praise that Gill receives in the Indian press and this omission in the BBC report only further insults those families that were devastated by state violence. Human rights groups such as the Khalra Action Committee, ENSAAF, and others are at the forefront of fighting for justice for the victims of state violence. To interview a member of an organization that is led by Gill, claim him as an independent authority, and not provide context about the charges raised by groups such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch about Gill is beyond an error of omission. It reeks of negligent white-washing.

Some claims by Sahni border on hilarious. The only reason I writes ‘borders’ is because some will actually take them seriously. He contends:

We are aware that at least about 100 Sikh radical elements, just from Europe and the UK alone, have trained in Pakistan-based terror camps. The presumption is that theyre training as a reserve to act in India when the opportunity arises.

So when was this? If this information is even true, then it is over 10-15 years old. How many Sikh youth do you know would put themselves at security risk to travel to Pakistan (especially post 9/11) to gain training and then sit around with it ‘just in case.’ Do others find this absurd?

Also to conflate problematic decision-making processes (or rather the lack of) and the violence that at times infects certain Gurdwaras during election time with Islamist terror groups (and not making distinction between Islamist terrorism and regional nationalists that may employ Islam as a unifying factor such as certain Kashmiri groups) is shoddy journalism at best; at worst it is yellow journalism in an attempt to create an atmosphere of fear and suspicion.

Real Problems in Our Community:

However, there ARE problems within the community. We dont need knee-jerk reactionary press releases or perpetual campaigns of complaint from various ideological organizations. We do need to begin having conversations about how to fix our Gurdwaras. We NEED decision-making processes based on consensus-building, not that of majoritarianism. We need more transparency and better management of funds. Old notions that committees ‘ate’ the money are usually little more than mud-slinging. Bad management is a problem; community pilfering less so.

The Kids:

Also, we need to end the hype. There are many messageboards that are filled with young children that pretend to speak for groups such as the BKI. There are other adults in the community that also talk as if the BKI still exists. The BKI has become the boogeyman. There is no BKI. The BKI of the 1990s is dead and finished. We need critical analysis of their unique failings. Joyce Pettigrews Sikhs of the Punjab lists many.

What we need to stop doing is pretending this ghost is alive. Few of the networks still survive, but those most active in calling themselves members have NOTHING to do with anything. These are young children in the teens and 20s, often part of the AKJ that helped spawn the BKI, that missed the actual period of conflict and have appropriated their symbols and logos. The guns of the Babbar Khalsa logo has become cool. It has become the Sikh youth Che Guevera T-Shirt. Find another logo kids.

Claiming Credit

Random incidents occur in Punjab. Just last month we saw 2 Sikhs roll a tire with a grenade at the DSS motorcade. Despite people that will accuse me of naivete, I think I have some insight into this matter. There will be individuals that act out of their own feelings and sentiments. To believe that some concerted effort with Pakistani, Al-Qaida, or other boogeymen either means these Sikh groups are extremely inept or shows that these are in fact individual efforts. The problem is that people that have old ties claim credit for anything and everything that occurs. They do this believing that through this ‘credit’ they will be able to financially capitalize. Those days are over. Stop claiming credit. You didnt do anything. You had no role, stop claiming it.

It is the Air India case in Canada and the role allegedly played by Talwinder Singh Parmar that put the BKI on the international map. It is no longer on the map, except by governmental groups that through a sort of odd ‘affirmative action’ process have to make sure to include non-Islamist groups to their terrorist-watch lists to pretend to be even-handed, those Sikh opportunists that believe they will somehow financially capitalize from its association by claiming credit to things they had nothing to do with, and finally other kids that want to be cool by appropriating symbols that they dont understand.

Instead though taking ‘credit’ and trying to be ‘cool,’ find better and more productive ways to be a nationalist instead of continuing with this BKI boogeyman that doesn’t exist. Plus if nationalism really is your bent, you can best serve your cause by seeking the support of other nations, not feeding into their hysteria. Self-reflection may actually help you. Try it!

Regardless, for the best of the community, put the name, the logo, and the fake credit to rest.


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90 Responses to “Beware of the ‘Boogeyman’ that is the BKI”

  1. Balwant says:

    1 Indonesian Sen = 0.0000011 US Dollars

  2. Balwant says:

    figure of speech.

  3. Mewa Singh says:

    Dear Bhai Balwant,

    Thank you for the international exchange rate of currency. So do you speak for the Khalsa? What is the decision-making process of the Khalsa?

  4. Mewa Singh says:

    Dear Bhai Balwant,

    Thank you for the international exchange rate of currency. So do you speak for the Khalsa? What is the decision-making process of the Khalsa?

  5. Balwant says:

    The decision making process of the Khalsa, as per Panthic traditions, is to have a "Sarbat Khalsa Samelan" where at least one representative from every Sikh organization around the world will gather at Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and attend a conference of issues and discussions and debates. Everyone should have the opportunity to give input, there should be approval of motions by the sangat through Jaikaras and if someone disagrees, they should stand before the sangat and give their viewpoint. If the sangat there makes a decision, the Five Jathedars of the Five Takhts should put it in writing, do Ardas before Guru Granth Sahib ji, and it should be accepted as the final decision of the GURU.

  6. Balwant says:

    The decision making process of the Khalsa, as per Panthic traditions, is to have a “Sarbat Khalsa Samelan” where at least one representative from every Sikh organization around the world will gather at Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and attend a conference of issues and discussions and debates. Everyone should have the opportunity to give input, there should be approval of motions by the sangat through Jaikaras and if someone disagrees, they should stand before the sangat and give their viewpoint. If the sangat there makes a decision, the Five Jathedars of the Five Takhts should put it in writing, do Ardas before Guru Granth Sahib ji, and it should be accepted as the final decision of the GURU.

  7. Prabhu Singh says:

    I know 'moderate' can be a nebulous term, but I'm encouraged to see 'moderate' opinions on this blog. Generally the internet is filled with the youth described in this article, who wear BKI's logo and are duped into violence and feudalism.

    I think this Balwant character is the only one to show up and represent what is usually the prominent opinion on the web. That of hatred, division, violence, extremism, etc. He's so extreme he will never come back to the site because it expresses a different opinion than he holds. He is feudal and divisive because he labels people and then says they're wrong. He is violent in his mention of "punishing the oppressor."

    Even though I call myself a Sikh, people always label me as a "3HO" Sikh, I think I'm probably one of those people that Balwant would like to "punish."

    I like how his solution to panthic problems comes down to who can yell the loudest (i.e. agreements via jaikaras). Classic feudal, violent, embarrassing, rhetoric found on the internet, and described in this article.

    Those who know me, probably know that I'm a bit jaded by now after meeting so many narrow minded "Sikhs" and being threatened and insulted on my personal blog. Balwant Ji, sorry to make an example of you, but, like all of us, you have some learning to do.

    Sat Naam.

  8. Prabhu Singh says:

    I know ‘moderate’ can be a nebulous term, but I’m encouraged to see ‘moderate’ opinions on this blog. Generally the internet is filled with the youth described in this article, who wear BKI’s logo and are duped into violence and feudalism.
    I think this Balwant character is the only one to show up and represent what is usually the prominent opinion on the web. That of hatred, division, violence, extremism, etc. He’s so extreme he will never come back to the site because it expresses a different opinion than he holds. He is feudal and divisive because he labels people and then says they’re wrong. He is violent in his mention of “punishing the oppressor.”
    Even though I call myself a Sikh, people always label me as a “3HO” Sikh, I think I’m probably one of those people that Balwant would like to “punish.”
    I like how his solution to panthic problems comes down to who can yell the loudest (i.e. agreements via jaikaras). Classic feudal, violent, embarrassing, rhetoric found on the internet, and described in this article.
    Those who know me, probably know that I’m a bit jaded by now after meeting so many narrow minded “Sikhs” and being threatened and insulted on my personal blog. Balwant Ji, sorry to make an example of you, but, like all of us, you have some learning to do.
    Sat Naam.

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  10. Amneet Singh says:

    [quote comment="1069"]Oh – and now we have the Sikh Activist Network, embracing the likes of Hugo Chavez, the Zapatistas and modeling their mission statement after that of the Black Panthers. Given their heroes and role models, I think they might have a skewed sense of Sikhs' role and position in society, and the best approach to take in addressing issues as they arise. Just a thought, and I mention it because although their position states "non-violence," I wonder about the undercurrent and influences.[/quote]

    Sizzle, I think your ideological filters have in fact skewed your ability to actually look at what the Network represents and its clear foundation in Sikh Liberation Theology. Also, its interesting that you are so quick to speak down on Hugo Chavez and the like.

    About one year ago, I traveled to Venezuela and met with Hugo Chavez, Vice President Rodriguez and many other community leaders and I assure you that Sikh practices were much more inline with their lifestyle than any capitalist state.

  11. Amneet Singh says:

    [quote comment=”1069″]Oh – and now we have the Sikh Activist Network, embracing the likes of Hugo Chavez, the Zapatistas and modeling their mission statement after that of the Black Panthers. Given their heroes and role models, I think they might have a skewed sense of Sikhs’ role and position in society, and the best approach to take in addressing issues as they arise. Just a thought, and I mention it because although their position states “non-violence,” I wonder about the undercurrent and influences.[/quote]

    Sizzle, I think your ideological filters have in fact skewed your ability to actually look at what the Network represents and its clear foundation in Sikh Liberation Theology. Also, its interesting that you are so quick to speak down on Hugo Chavez and the like.

    About one year ago, I traveled to Venezuela and met with Hugo Chavez, Vice President Rodriguez and many other community leaders and I assure you that Sikh practices were much more inline with their lifestyle than any capitalist state.

  12. sizzle says:

    i assure you, i find your post hilarious. did you run into sean penn while you were down there? if so, that'd be doubly hilarious.

    About one year ago, I traveled to Venezuela and met with Hugo Chavez, Vice President Rodriguez and many other community leaders and I assure you that Sikh practices were much more inline with their lifestyle than any capitalist state.

    mull over this:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/hugo-

    or this:
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKTRE4A

    and those are just from the last week.

  13. sizzle says:

    i assure you, i find your post hilarious. did you run into sean penn while you were down there? if so, that’d be doubly hilarious.

    About one year ago, I traveled to Venezuela and met with Hugo Chavez, Vice President Rodriguez and many other community leaders and I assure you that Sikh practices were much more inline with their lifestyle than any capitalist state.

    mull over this:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/hugo-chavez-venezuela-elections-wiretaps

    or this:
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKTRE4A83DT20081109

    and those are just from the last week.

  14. Amneet Singh says:

    WJKK WJKF!

    Yes sizzle I did see Sean Penn, in fact I was about 6 seats down from him at the Summit for the Explosion of Popular Power.

    Also, I did meet with the opposition while I visited and although some of their concerns are legitimate, I can see that you lack a clear understanding of what is really occurring in the country. Whereas I had an opportunity to witness what the truth was with first hand experience on the ground, you are limited to imagining reality through the internet.

    I suggest you look into some of the policies regarding healthcare, environment, poverty and illiteracy (just to name a few) and how the government has fared on that front.

    With regards to the articles if you had any knowledge of recent history you would understand that the so called opposition are in fact criminals, and any surveillance is the consequence of the oppositions use of foreign funds and CIA backed strategy to overthrow a government which history has witnessed has been backed by the people of the state.

    When it comes down to it even the opposition cannot help but admit that Chavez has done more for their country than any previous leader and the massive majority that has supported him shows the power of a true democracy.

    Lastly, I am not sure what you find so amusing by quoting my text, however it paints a very clear picture of your immaturity.

  15. Amneet Singh says:

    WJKK WJKF!

    Yes sizzle I did see Sean Penn, in fact I was about 6 seats down from him at the Summit for the Explosion of Popular Power.

    Also, I did meet with the opposition while I visited and although some of their concerns are legitimate, I can see that you lack a clear understanding of what is really occurring in the country. Whereas I had an opportunity to witness what the truth was with first hand experience on the ground, you are limited to imagining reality through the internet.

    I suggest you look into some of the policies regarding healthcare, environment, poverty and illiteracy (just to name a few) and how the government has fared on that front.

    With regards to the articles if you had any knowledge of recent history you would understand that the so called opposition are in fact criminals, and any surveillance is the consequence of the oppositions use of foreign funds and CIA backed strategy to overthrow a government which history has witnessed has been backed by the people of the state.

    When it comes down to it even the opposition cannot help but admit that Chavez has done more for their country than any previous leader and the massive majority that has supported him shows the power of a true democracy.

    Lastly, I am not sure what you find so amusing by quoting my text, however it paints a very clear picture of your immaturity.

  16. Amneet Singh says:

    ps – your article forgot to mention the following.

    "Venezuelan Telecommunications Minister Jesse Chacon presented a video revealing the opposition strategy of destabilization for Sunday's referendum at a press conference on Thursday. In the video, opposition leaders call on their supporters to reject the results of the referendum and to take part in nation-wide protests to overturn the constitutional reform. Two opposition leaders are being investigated for inciting violence and calling on supporters to break the law."

    I wonder how much money the CIA is putting into destabilizing the socialist democracy this time.

  17. Amneet Singh says:

    ps – your article forgot to mention the following.

    “Venezuelan Telecommunications Minister Jesse Chacon presented a video revealing the opposition strategy of destabilization for Sunday’s referendum at a press conference on Thursday. In the video, opposition leaders call on their supporters to reject the results of the referendum and to take part in nation-wide protests to overturn the constitutional reform. Two opposition leaders are being investigated for inciting violence and calling on supporters to break the law.”

    I wonder how much money the CIA is putting into destabilizing the socialist democracy this time.

  18. sizzle says:

    because continuing this tangential political discussion, which, as i've outlined in my head, would encapsulate the separation of church and state, the conflation of political and philisophical dogma in sikh teachings, distinguishing a general political ideology from the historical execution and application of said ideology, discovering where one stands on "the ends justify the means" curve, exploring the moral equivalency between libertarian-ish democracies and socialist thugocracies, analyzing our trust in media and propaganda from various outlets, how we might understand a person's soul by meeting them and looking them in the eye (kind of like george w. and putin), and my your perception of my immaturity matched by my perception of naivete and misguidedness…..well, continuing this conversation will be the equivalent of talking to a wall – for both of us. so, i'll end it here. please don't interpret this message as any sort of concession – i'm just extremely busy.

    Adios! as a certain bellicose oil-rich Venezuelan might say.

  19. sizzle says:

    because continuing this tangential political discussion, which, as i’ve outlined in my head, would encapsulate the separation of church and state, the conflation of political and philisophical dogma in sikh teachings, distinguishing a general political ideology from the historical execution and application of said ideology, discovering where one stands on “the ends justify the means” curve, exploring the moral equivalency between libertarian-ish democracies and socialist thugocracies, analyzing our trust in media and propaganda from various outlets, how we might understand a person’s soul by meeting them and looking them in the eye (kind of like george w. and putin), and my your perception of my immaturity matched by my perception of naivete and misguidedness…..well, continuing this conversation will be the equivalent of talking to a wall – for both of us. so, i’ll end it here. please don’t interpret this message as any sort of concession – i’m just extremely busy.

    Adios! as a certain bellicose oil-rich Venezuelan might say.

  20. Amneet says:

    My intention is not to change your opinion, but merely to provide an alternative understanding to your claims.

    Your reponses have unfortunately been overshadowed by a hint of arrogance, ignorance and immaturity. However, I suspect that anyone who reads this will recognize your inability to egange in healthy discussion while noting the illegitimacy in the claims you have made.

    The difference in our opinions is that you play the role of the child on the playground who heard about the rumour, whereas I am the child that was there. Being in Venezuela I experienced the realities on the ground allowing me to develop my own perceptions through first hand experience. You on the other hand appear to have accepted the rumours presented to you through opinion journalism that reached you only after being processed through numerous ideological filtered media networks and minds.

    Unfortunately, you have not only done this in your discussion regarding Venezuela but also the Sikh Activist Network. Again, being personally involved with the network I wonder which of the activities concern you so much and which you have witnessed taking place?

    Perhaps it is one of the following…

    – Big Brother and Sister Programs for children in high risk communities

    – Langar Seva for homeless

    – Immigrant Rights

    – Langar Seva at Gurdwaras

    – Etc

  21. Amneet says:

    My intention is not to change your opinion, but merely to provide an alternative understanding to your claims.

    Your reponses have unfortunately been overshadowed by a hint of arrogance, ignorance and immaturity. However, I suspect that anyone who reads this will recognize your inability to egange in healthy discussion while noting the illegitimacy in the claims you have made.

    The difference in our opinions is that you play the role of the child on the playground who heard about the rumour, whereas I am the child that was there. Being in Venezuela I experienced the realities on the ground allowing me to develop my own perceptions through first hand experience. You on the other hand appear to have accepted the rumours presented to you through opinion journalism that reached you only after being processed through numerous ideological filtered media networks and minds.

    Unfortunately, you have not only done this in your discussion regarding Venezuela but also the Sikh Activist Network. Again, being personally involved with the network I wonder which of the activities concern you so much and which you have witnessed taking place?

    Perhaps it is one of the following…

    – Big Brother and Sister Programs for children in high risk communities

    – Langar Seva for homeless

    – Immigrant Rights

    – Langar Seva at Gurdwaras

    – Etc

  22. sizzle says:

    dude.

    1. read my post immediately above, again. and maybe for a third time. and a fourth. think about it. then read it again.

    2. stating, "Your reponses have unfortunately been overshadowed by a hint of arrogance, ignorance and immaturity," when i haven't really responded to anything in any substantive way (because, again, i have no time), with a writing style that smacks of "holier than thou" attitude and supreme arrogance (perhaps you're not self aware enough to notice?) is………what's that word i used earlier? oh, right. hilarious.

    but keep up the good fight and keep on posting, arguing and making longer and longer points "against" someone who isn't really responding on a personal and "substantive" way. if you keep at it, some day you'll have all the gold stars you could ever want!

  23. sizzle says:

    dude.

    1. read my post immediately above, again. and maybe for a third time. and a fourth. think about it. then read it again.

    2. stating, “Your reponses have unfortunately been overshadowed by a hint of arrogance, ignorance and immaturity,” when i haven’t really responded to anything in any substantive way (because, again, i have no time), with a writing style that smacks of “holier than thou” attitude and supreme arrogance (perhaps you’re not self aware enough to notice?) is………what’s that word i used earlier? oh, right. hilarious.

    but keep up the good fight and keep on posting, arguing and making longer and longer points “against” someone who isn’t really responding on a personal and “substantive” way. if you keep at it, some day you’ll have all the gold stars you could ever want!

  24. sizzle says:

    hey – i have a minute, saw this in my email, and want to add one point:

    citing good deeds and certain success, especially in the context of an entire government and ideology, doesn't erase certain sins, misdeeds or fundamental flaws of that government or ideology. and that is, of course, where we disagree. I have no doubt that Chavez, the zapatistas and other figures and organizations to which i am not at all sympathetic have done a lot of good in various ways. but, this is also why i mentioned the "ends justify the means" debate earlier in addition to a balancing test i mentioned above in this post. the same test is applicable to the united states – where our "capitalist" system does little to assist those who may need it most in comparison to other "socialist" nations. this, in many minds, is a clear misdeed. however, a tremendous, TREMENDOUS amount of good for not only US citizens but people the world over has resulted from the system that we have in place. but all this is besides the point. in my mind, what i just wrote is a given, a default, simple utilitariansim that anyone who discusses politics should understand. i'm just at a loss as to how my criticism and questions of certain attributes of a sikh organization, namely stated their inspiration by and apparent support of certain historical figures who are controversial and known for certain methods and platforms. moreover, these historical figures were chosen from amongst MANY who have done good deeds. indeed, the one element that is most common and obvious between the chavez, panthers and zapatistas is that they adopted militant techniques to achieve their ends of equality, fairness, and protection of the defenseless (as they see it). so, isn't it only rational to ask "why them?" of all the organizations and historical figures that south equality, fairness and protection of teh defenseless, is there a correlation between choosing militant inspirations and the mindset of the Sikh Activist Network? and yet here you are….calling me immature for asking the question.

    we can criticize respective systems and discuss these matters, the historical reputation of those individuals and organizations, ad infinitum. but, where i fault you and find you, to be frank, silly, is where you turned the discussion cited your limited real world experience. it reminds me of when my aunt and uncle went to china a few months before the olympics, checked it out for three weeks, and came back reporting that it was amazing place and they don't understand the criticism and how anyone could construe as anything other than a first world nation. it didn't matter that they had hit all the hot spots, the tourist locations, were almost always led by a govt official, and were limited in what they saw. only later, when certain exposes that were featured because of the olympics, did they realize – oh wait, i may not have teh whole picture and any better of a perspective just because i was there. i think that is pretty applicable here. i don't fault you for what you believe, i don't fault you for your ideology, and i don't fault you for your stance – we are more than free to disagree. but when you try to defend an entire ideology, a politician with many facets, a nation, a government, and a system by staying "i was there, i saw it, you're just reading stuff on the internet" – well, that is just dumb, and i have no qualms about calling you out about it.

    so, in conclusion, if all this makes me an ignorant, immature child – well, ok – i'd rather be an ignorant, immature child than whatever you might be.

  25. sizzle says:

    hey – i have a minute, saw this in my email, and want to add one point:

    citing good deeds and certain success, especially in the context of an entire government and ideology, doesn’t erase certain sins, misdeeds or fundamental flaws of that government or ideology. and that is, of course, where we disagree. I have no doubt that Chavez, the zapatistas and other figures and organizations to which i am not at all sympathetic have done a lot of good in various ways. but, this is also why i mentioned the “ends justify the means” debate earlier in addition to a balancing test i mentioned above in this post. the same test is applicable to the united states – where our “capitalist” system does little to assist those who may need it most in comparison to other “socialist” nations. this, in many minds, is a clear misdeed. however, a tremendous, TREMENDOUS amount of good for not only US citizens but people the world over has resulted from the system that we have in place. but all this is besides the point. in my mind, what i just wrote is a given, a default, simple utilitariansim that anyone who discusses politics should understand. i’m just at a loss as to how my criticism and questions of certain attributes of a sikh organization, namely stated their inspiration by and apparent support of certain historical figures who are controversial and known for certain methods and platforms. moreover, these historical figures were chosen from amongst MANY who have done good deeds. indeed, the one element that is most common and obvious between the chavez, panthers and zapatistas is that they adopted militant techniques to achieve their ends of equality, fairness, and protection of the defenseless (as they see it). so, isn’t it only rational to ask “why them?” of all the organizations and historical figures that south equality, fairness and protection of teh defenseless, is there a correlation between choosing militant inspirations and the mindset of the Sikh Activist Network? and yet here you are….calling me immature for asking the question.

    we can criticize respective systems and discuss these matters, the historical reputation of those individuals and organizations, ad infinitum. but, where i fault you and find you, to be frank, silly, is where you turned the discussion cited your limited real world experience. it reminds me of when my aunt and uncle went to china a few months before the olympics, checked it out for three weeks, and came back reporting that it was amazing place and they don’t understand the criticism and how anyone could construe as anything other than a first world nation. it didn’t matter that they had hit all the hot spots, the tourist locations, were almost always led by a govt official, and were limited in what they saw. only later, when certain exposes that were featured because of the olympics, did they realize – oh wait, i may not have teh whole picture and any better of a perspective just because i was there. i think that is pretty applicable here. i don’t fault you for what you believe, i don’t fault you for your ideology, and i don’t fault you for your stance – we are more than free to disagree. but when you try to defend an entire ideology, a politician with many facets, a nation, a government, and a system by staying “i was there, i saw it, you’re just reading stuff on the internet” – well, that is just dumb, and i have no qualms about calling you out about it.

    so, in conclusion, if all this makes me an ignorant, immature child – well, ok – i’d rather be an ignorant, immature child than whatever you might be.

  26. BUCHANGI says:

    Gurfateh jio,

    Babbar Khalsa are the reason to why sikhs have some recognision in the world, Indian govt listens to sikhs because they know that Babbar Khalsa will always re-emerge to protect the panth.

    What have "moderates" done to protect sikhism.

    If maintaining satkar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji makes sikhs terrorist, then thats what we should be.

  27. BUCHANGI says:

    Gurfateh jio,

    Babbar Khalsa are the reason to why sikhs have some recognision in the world, Indian govt listens to sikhs because they know that Babbar Khalsa will always re-emerge to protect the panth.

    What have “moderates” done to protect sikhism.

    If maintaining satkar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji makes sikhs terrorist, then thats what we should be.

  28. BUCHANGI says:

    The potential presence of Babbar Khalsa makes Indian Govt listen to sikhs like Badal and SGPC.

    If no Kaddku Singhs, then not respect for Sikh politicans.

  29. BUCHANGI says:

    The potential presence of Babbar Khalsa makes Indian Govt listen to sikhs like Badal and SGPC.

    If no Kaddku Singhs, then not respect for Sikh politicans.

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