Kirpan Banned at Gurdas Mann Concert (Again!)
For diasporic Sikhs, it seems routine and almost expected to wake up to news about an incident where a Sikh was banned access to an event because of his or her kirpan. Many times, we blame this on the ignorance of law enforcement, who often have never heard of a kirpan. We tell ourselves, “Don’t worry, we just have to teach them and they’ll understand.” However, when Kirpan wearing patrons at a Gurdas Mann concert are barred entry, then we must stop for pause.
When a kirpan wearing citizen is blocked access from exercising their civil liberties, we as a community go into uproar mode. We file lawsuits, organize protests, and launch mass public marketing campaigns in order to exercise what we believe to an unalienable right and an articulation of our personal sovereignty. When a Bollywood movie comes out with a Sikh hero sans beard, our institutional bodies outrun and out-leap each other to be the first to cry foul. When a Baba in a Dera dresses up as Guru Gobind Singh Ji, we bring the state of Punjab to a halt.
However, at the point where cultural icon and repository Gurdas Mann, goes so far as to write “No Kirpans or Sharp Objects Allowed” on tickets being sold at a VAISAKHI show in England, then what do we do? We let him carry forward and WE outrun and out-leap each other so we can be first in line at his next concert.
Now when his concert bans an entity which is legally allowed in the public spaces of Canada, then what do we do? Do we ignore and slowly sweep this incident under the rug, like so many of our cultural problems? Or, do we stop and say, Hey, standing next to K.P.S Gill and lambasting “Sikh terrorism” is not ok; banning kirpans in UK is not appreciated; and throwing out concertgoers in Alberta, is simply no longer going to work.
86 Responses to “Kirpan Banned at Gurdas Mann Concert (Again!)”
If they choose to ban an item on private propery, like I am assuming the Telus Convention Centre is, to me, that is more than fair. I am Christian. If I went to a concert, and they told me that I could not carry a crucific into the show, that is their right. Whether I choose to put the crucific back in my car and return to the show is my right.
GURDAS MAAN IS A ARTIST HE CAN NOT CHANGE LAWS OR RULES
As always thank you Jodha. G Mann's contribution to Panjabi culture is there however we cannot overlook his assoc with KPS Gill and other anti-panthic stands. The question is how can we effectively make him accountable? One way is to stop going to his concerts. I can go on record as a BIG bhangrahead but have NEVER bought one of GM's CDs or gone to his concert out of principle. I'm all ears for other suggestions and constructive ways to deal with mr. Mann
As always thank you Jodha. G Mann’s contribution to Panjabi culture is there however we cannot overlook his assoc with KPS Gill and other anti-panthic stands. The question is how can we effectively make him accountable? One way is to stop going to his concerts. I can go on record as a BIG bhangrahead but have NEVER bought one of GM’s CDs or gone to his concert out of principle. I’m all ears for other suggestions and constructive ways to deal with mr. Mann
No doubt, the private sector (the venue or the entertainment company and its affiliates) reserves the right to bar kirpans. However, some related concerns are presented:
1) All reports seem to indicate that wearers of the kirpan were told AFTER they purchased the ticket that they weren’t allowed to do so. This caused unnecessary fury; and
2) As a consequence, kirpan wearers were made to remove their kirpans if they wished to enter. This simply cannot be done, as the kirpan is never to be removed. It is an article of faith that is NOT optional for many who wear it. Hence, for security to ask that kirpans be removed is violating the wearers' right to free practice of faith.
Wholeheartedly,
Shan Singh Tinna
If they choose to ban an item on private propery, like I am assuming the Telus Convention Centre is, to me, that is more than fair. I am Christian. If I went to a concert, and they told me that I could not carry a crucific into the show, that is their right. Whether I choose to put the crucific back in my car and return to the show is my right.
As a resident of Calgary.. this type of incident I find moderately amusing.
I'm quite saddened for all the fans who wanted to go, including grandparents, parents, and children. I just don't understand, how concerts similar to this one had no problem with people wearing a Kirpan.. maybe it was because they didn't have the extra security.. but come on… really if we need "extra" security at a Gardas Maan concert.. boy o boy.. we have some major issues on our hands culturally.
Following that.. I agree with an earlier comment, duh, the promoters of the concert knew the requirements, restrictions, and they knew who they were selling the tickets to.. they should have ensured they explained the restrictions to the consumers. This would have allowed for people to make alternative arrangements.
No doubt, the private sector (the venue or the entertainment company and its affiliates) reserves the right to bar kirpans. However, some related concerns are presented:
1) All reports seem to indicate that wearers of the kirpan were told AFTER they purchased the ticket that they weren’t allowed to do so. This caused unnecessary fury; and
2) As a consequence, kirpan wearers were made to remove their kirpans if they wished to enter. This simply cannot be done, as the kirpan is never to be removed. It is an article of faith that is NOT optional for many who wear it. Hence, for security to ask that kirpans be removed is violating the wearers’ right to free practice of faith.
Wholeheartedly,
Shan Singh Tinna
GURDAS MAAN IS A ARTIST HE CAN NOT CHANGE LAWS OR RULES
As a resident of Calgary.. this type of incident I find moderately amusing.
I’m quite saddened for all the fans who wanted to go, including grandparents, parents, and children. I just don’t understand, how concerts similar to this one had no problem with people wearing a Kirpan.. maybe it was because they didn’t have the extra security.. but come on… really if we need “extra” security at a Gardas Maan concert.. boy o boy.. we have some major issues on our hands culturally.
Following that.. I agree with an earlier comment, duh, the promoters of the concert knew the requirements, restrictions, and they knew who they were selling the tickets to.. they should have ensured they explained the restrictions to the consumers. This would have allowed for people to make alternative arrangements.
er, what are kirpan wearing singhs doing at a concert where songs refering to alcohol and women are sung about? I thought these singhs would prefer a Gurdwara Rehansbhai?
er, what are kirpan wearing singhs doing at a concert where songs refering to alcohol and women are sung about? I thought these singhs would prefer a Gurdwara Rehansbhai?
The origianl psot was in England. The latest is in Calgary. Clerly this is a policy the concert promotors have put into place. Please read below. This is about kirpans but also the fact the Mr. Mann is silent on this issue and overall just cares about $$$.
Ceremonial daggers cause concert to be cancelled: reports.
Canwest News ServiceAugust 3, 2009
CALGARY – Hundreds of upset concertgoers spilled onto the streets of downtown Calgary after a show by a popular Punjabi singer on Sunday night was shut down in mid-performance.
It wasn't immediately clear why the concert by Gurdas Maan at the Telus Convention Centre ended so suddenly, but many patrons alleged security guards were refusing entry to those wearing the kirpan – a ceremonial dagger carried by observant Sikhs.
Considering Maan's Punjabi heritage and his wide popularity in India and abroad, some concertgoers were incredulous that security staff wouldn't have been better educated about the kirpan's importance to Sikhs.
Wearing the kirpan is considered a central requirement of the Sikh faith. It is worn ceremonially and not intended to be a weapon.
“We respect Canadian laws,'' said Amarjit Singh, who was wearing a kirpan underneath his blazer.
Singh said he couldn't understand why kirpans were being barred from the convention centre when Sikh parliamentarians have long been allowed to wear them inside the House of Commons.
Maan, often called India's Michael Jackson, attracted a family-heavy crowd made up parents, children and grandparents.
At about 9:30 p.m., the show was ended and police were called to help empty the concert hall.
Police officers ringed the entrances to the convention centre. The crowd dispersed largely without incident, but officers were seen making arrests.
Calgary Herald
© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service
The origianl psot was in England. The latest is in Calgary. Clerly this is a policy the concert promotors have put into place. Please read below. This is about kirpans but also the fact the Mr. Mann is silent on this issue and overall just cares about $$$.
Ceremonial daggers cause concert to be cancelled: reports.
Canwest News ServiceAugust 3, 2009
CALGARY – Hundreds of upset concertgoers spilled onto the streets of downtown Calgary after a show by a popular Punjabi singer on Sunday night was shut down in mid-performance.
It wasn’t immediately clear why the concert by Gurdas Maan at the Telus Convention Centre ended so suddenly, but many patrons alleged security guards were refusing entry to those wearing the kirpan – a ceremonial dagger carried by observant Sikhs.
Considering Maan’s Punjabi heritage and his wide popularity in India and abroad, some concertgoers were incredulous that security staff wouldn’t have been better educated about the kirpan’s importance to Sikhs.
Wearing the kirpan is considered a central requirement of the Sikh faith. It is worn ceremonially and not intended to be a weapon.
“We respect Canadian laws,” said Amarjit Singh, who was wearing a kirpan underneath his blazer.
Singh said he couldn’t understand why kirpans were being barred from the convention centre when Sikh parliamentarians have long been allowed to wear them inside the House of Commons.
Maan, often called India’s Michael Jackson, attracted a family-heavy crowd made up parents, children and grandparents.
At about 9:30 p.m., the show was ended and police were called to help empty the concert hall.
Police officers ringed the entrances to the convention centre. The crowd dispersed largely without incident, but officers were seen making arrests.
Calgary Herald
© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service
Let them wear it. But if they ever use it for any reason.Then Canadian law to the max should be applied. Simple and fair.
Let them wear it. But if they ever use it for any reason.Then Canadian law to the max should be applied. Simple and fair.
I would encourage people to read article; Legal action looms after Calgary concert halted over kirpan
Punjabi singer holds makeup show in park
By Jason van Rassel, Calgary HeraldAugust 4, 2009 11:42 AM.
Gurdas Maan or his promoters had nothing to do with the cancellation of his show. I myself went to his Vancouver show Aug 1st, 2009. I paid $250 per ticket for myself, my husband and my parents in the middle of the 4th row. It would have been perfect, if not for the very tall gentleman sitting in front of me who was wearing a large turban and a kirpan,(might I add), wasn't obstructing my view. Seeing my parents laugh and have a good time at their 1st concert ever after 50 years of being in Canada and a very difficult start to this year was worth it. THANK YOU to Gurdas Maan and everyone involved in the production of his show.
Mr. Maan DID NOT HAVE to do the makeup concert in the park. He should be respected for that. After all he does not own the Telus Convention Centre and putting on a show at the last minute in the park, i'm sure, was not an easy feat and it was better than nothing. So I agree people should be upset….but not at Gurdas Maan or his promoters.
It is understood that Canada is a very diverse culture, however when another culture seeks confrontation over a Religious issue which is foreign then who is being the aggressor in the situation. Understand that we too have laws which we uphold therefore within this country these are the norms. So carrying a knife whether it be relegious or not is understood by most if not all Canadians can be seen as a sign of aggression. I know your saying now that its your relegion, great but respect our laws and customs which we believe in. If its your laws back in your country to wear it there then by all means wear it there, but give us the respect we give you.
I would encourage people to read article; Legal action looms after Calgary concert halted over kirpan
Punjabi singer holds makeup show in park
By Jason van Rassel, Calgary HeraldAugust 4, 2009 11:42 AM.
Gurdas Maan or his promoters had nothing to do with the cancellation of his show. I myself went to his Vancouver show Aug 1st, 2009. I paid $250 per ticket for myself, my husband and my parents in the middle of the 4th row. It would have been perfect, if not for the very tall gentleman sitting in front of me who was wearing a large turban and a kirpan,(might I add), wasn’t obstructing my view. Seeing my parents laugh and have a good time at their 1st concert ever after 50 years of being in Canada and a very difficult start to this year was worth it. THANK YOU to Gurdas Maan and everyone involved in the production of his show.
Mr. Maan DID NOT HAVE to do the makeup concert in the park. He should be respected for that. After all he does not own the Telus Convention Centre and putting on a show at the last minute in the park, i’m sure, was not an easy feat and it was better than nothing. So I agree people should be upset….but not at Gurdas Maan or his promoters.
It is understood that Canada is a very diverse culture, however when another culture seeks confrontation over a Religious issue which is foreign then who is being the aggressor in the situation. Understand that we too have laws which we uphold therefore within this country these are the norms. So carrying a knife whether it be relegious or not is understood by most if not all Canadians can be seen as a sign of aggression. I know your saying now that its your relegion, great but respect our laws and customs which we believe in. If its your laws back in your country to wear it there then by all means wear it there, but give us the respect we give you.
i was that guy who stood up and G mann gave his mike to me to speak. before i began that story i just wanna tell something to everyone about myself. I am brown and punjabi and soon turning myself into black by changing my hairstyle(Rasta). OK now that night i stood up for humans cuz i know who is G mann and how much people respect him. so i did not like when i got into the hall, people inside were claping and out there they were they were struglin to get in. i fell sorry for those were having fun indoor and i'm happy cuz by my one step thousands of people were able to see outdoor live concert.
here i'm leaving my e mail adress so u can tell me if i was right or wrong. sran.sandeep@yahoo.com
thanx guys
You don’t “turn yourself into Black.” It’s something you’re born into. A hairstyle doesn’t necessarily affect your ethnicity.
Also, I don’t see the impossibility in your being Punjabi and having that hairstyle, simultaneously.
Your introduction wasn’t necessary, but I have no further problem with it.
Companies have their rules, and if people don’t comply, let them face the consequences. But, at the very least, have the common courtesy of making paying customers aware of the policy: That's something I’d have advocated.
Wholeheartedly,
Shan Singh Tinna
i was that guy who stood up and G mann gave his mike to me to speak. before i began that story i just wanna tell something to everyone about myself. I am brown and punjabi and soon turning myself into black by changing my hairstyle(Rasta). OK now that night i stood up for humans cuz i know who is G mann and how much people respect him. so i did not like when i got into the hall, people inside were claping and out there they were they were struglin to get in. i fell sorry for those were having fun indoor and i’m happy cuz by my one step thousands of people were able to see outdoor live concert.
here i’m leaving my e mail adress so u can tell me if i was right or wrong. sran.sandeep@yahoo.com
thanx guys
You don’t “turn yourself into Black.” It’s something you’re born into. A hairstyle doesn’t necessarily affect your ethnicity.
Also, I don’t see the impossibility in your being Punjabi and having that hairstyle, simultaneously.
Your introduction wasn’t necessary, but I have no further problem with it.
Companies have their rules, and if people don’t comply, let them face the consequences. But, at the very least, have the common courtesy of making paying customers aware of the policy: That’s something I’d have advocated.
Wholeheartedly,
Shan Singh Tinna
This is an interesting. Having been involved in, or around booking these very venues for events for the past 10 years, there has never once, been a problem with "weapons" in the contract.
Conferences, parties, concerts, banquets.
The failure here is on two parts.
First, most Desi "promoters" are amateurs. I have it on good authority that Gurdas was paid ~ $125,000 a show in Alberta. You can get any Grammy winning artist for that much. Perspective? None. The promoters mostly want their "name" out there and their faces on the posters next to the singers.
Having a good show, not this one in Calgary where people with paid tickets are locked outside and can't get in, and Gurdas decides to start the show is sure to upset the crowd, Kirpans, or no Kirpans.
There were a large number of people at this show that simply couldn't get in because the door wasn't being run properly. That leads to agitation and doors and windows being kicked in like they were. It's not likely that elderly kirpan wearing Sikh gentlemen kicked in those windows at this concert.
All artists can, and do ask for things when they perform. Anyone in the know, with experience, knows this.
With people, it's very easy to look at what they do (pacify the ticket holders and not take on the issue) when something happens, and not what they say (excuses), or what they say they did.
So, Gurdas ji writes a song for "Babay Bhangra Paundeh", makes his money off them, sells them some more tickets, and they can't get in….. and where is he on this?
Gurdas has not come out and said he won't perform anywhere that a Kirpan isn't allowed. Is that unreasonable when it's completely possible? Fool me once… Fool me twice…
It would be very simple, and powerful for Gurdas to do this. It would be something that any promoter, reading english, before signing a contract, could ensure. In this case, the promoter was completely lazy or incompetent to not know the spectrum of security procedures out there at events, they are foolish and the audience of Calgary, at large, should take notice of glory seeking charlatans that are quick to sell tickets to anyone, and not ensure that details are taken care of, let alone making sure 2500 people can get inside while the show starts without them.
This issue likely could have been avoided entirely simply by clarifying it in advance and not leaving it to unfamiliar security guards to stick to standard policy, when this isn't a mainstream event going on.
If Michael Jackson could get anything he wanted, Gurdas Mann couldn't get one assurance when it's so easily possible? By allowing it to happen and "having your price" to perform anywhere and saying it's not his job is an inexpensive (sasta) character trait.
For this reason I have realized, now that it's happened twice, that Gurdas Mann's character is revealed not in what he did to pacify the crowd (and keep them attending his concerts), but what he didn't do (or say) about the issue at hand about the kirpan, in the same public circles in the Mainstream media where it's being discussed. These promoters have no problems getting the artists on the radios and tv promoting the show before hand.
If he and the promoters are so serious about this issue, there is no reason they couldn't be on the airwaves just as hard about it. It simply hasn't been happening like that, but maybe time will tell.
All I know is I have come to see Gurdas as more of a business man milking a willing audience than being any Patriarchial prince of punjabi.
This is an interesting. Having been involved in, or around booking these very venues for events for the past 10 years, there has never once, been a problem with “weapons” in the contract.
Conferences, parties, concerts, banquets.
The failure here is on two parts.
First, most Desi “promoters” are amateurs. I have it on good authority that Gurdas was paid ~ $125,000 a show in Alberta. You can get any Grammy winning artist for that much. Perspective? None. The promoters mostly want their “name” out there and their faces on the posters next to the singers.
Having a good show, not this one in Calgary where people with paid tickets are locked outside and can’t get in, and Gurdas decides to start the show is sure to upset the crowd, Kirpans, or no Kirpans.
There were a large number of people at this show that simply couldn’t get in because the door wasn’t being run properly. That leads to agitation and doors and windows being kicked in like they were. It’s not likely that elderly kirpan wearing Sikh gentlemen kicked in those windows at this concert.
All artists can, and do ask for things when they perform. Anyone in the know, with experience, knows this.
With people, it’s very easy to look at what they do (pacify the ticket holders and not take on the issue) when something happens, and not what they say (excuses), or what they say they did.
So, Gurdas ji writes a song for “Babay Bhangra Paundeh”, makes his money off them, sells them some more tickets, and they can’t get in….. and where is he on this?
Gurdas has not come out and said he won’t perform anywhere that a Kirpan isn’t allowed. Is that unreasonable when it’s completely possible? Fool me once… Fool me twice…
It would be very simple, and powerful for Gurdas to do this. It would be something that any promoter, reading english, before signing a contract, could ensure. In this case, the promoter was completely lazy or incompetent to not know the spectrum of security procedures out there at events, they are foolish and the audience of Calgary, at large, should take notice of glory seeking charlatans that are quick to sell tickets to anyone, and not ensure that details are taken care of, let alone making sure 2500 people can get inside while the show starts without them.
This issue likely could have been avoided entirely simply by clarifying it in advance and not leaving it to unfamiliar security guards to stick to standard policy, when this isn’t a mainstream event going on.
If Michael Jackson could get anything he wanted, Gurdas Mann couldn’t get one assurance when it’s so easily possible? By allowing it to happen and “having your price” to perform anywhere and saying it’s not his job is an inexpensive (sasta) character trait.
For this reason I have realized, now that it’s happened twice, that Gurdas Mann’s character is revealed not in what he did to pacify the crowd (and keep them attending his concerts), but what he didn’t do (or say) about the issue at hand about the kirpan, in the same public circles in the Mainstream media where it’s being discussed. These promoters have no problems getting the artists on the radios and tv promoting the show before hand.
If he and the promoters are so serious about this issue, there is no reason they couldn’t be on the airwaves just as hard about it. It simply hasn’t been happening like that, but maybe time will tell.
All I know is I have come to see Gurdas as more of a business man milking a willing audience than being any Patriarchial prince of punjabi.
I used to respect Gurdaas Mann a lot thinking that he is different from others, but ….I was surprised the way he tried to pacify the crowd…$$$$$$$$$
He has one less fan now for sure
I used to respect Gurdaas Mann a lot thinking that he is different from others, but ….I was surprised the way he tried to pacify the crowd…$$$$$$$$$
He has one less fan now for sure
good point justasikh
Guys if you carry your kirpans and you know some places they are not accepted then read the tickets or speak to the promoter dont blame the legend get of his back he has enough death threats in the past and he is still here not the legends FAULT get into your thick heads the GREAT SAI JI BABA LADI SHAH is always with long live the LEGEND BABA GURDAS MAAN live forever.
good point justasikh
Guys if you carry your kirpans and you know some places they are not accepted then read the tickets or speak to the promoter dont blame the legend get of his back he has enough death threats in the past and he is still here not the legends FAULT get into your thick heads the GREAT SAI JI BABA LADI SHAH is always with long live the LEGEND BABA GURDAS MAAN live forever.
khalistani brothers and sisters have started an anti-gurdas mann campaign and are losing very badly in it,just because mann bhai is not listening to all the stuff khalistani veer want him to say he is becaome a target of there hate campaign,you are not allowed any sharp object in any concert if you can could my brothers please tell me which concert were they allowed to take sharp objects or kirpan then we can discuss further,gurdas mann is the best and a few khalistani brothers and sisters are not gonna dent his popularity in any way but rather make a tamasha of themselves,you people will just never change,carry on just carry on
khalistani brothers and sisters have started an anti-gurdas mann campaign and are losing very badly in it,just because mann bhai is not listening to all the stuff khalistani veer want him to say he is becaome a target of there hate campaign,you are not allowed any sharp object in any concert if you can could my brothers please tell me which concert were they allowed to take sharp objects or kirpan then we can discuss further,gurdas mann is the best and a few khalistani brothers and sisters are not gonna dent his popularity in any way but rather make a tamasha of themselves,you people will just never change,carry on just carry on
It was really an unfortunate incident and blaming GM for all this is nothing less than stupidity.
As far as i can think, it all goes to the promoters of the show. Given the rules in Canada, they should have ensured this that people wearing kirpaans won't be troubled. And after something like this happened, it could have been resolved on the spot.
To be honest and true, kiraan is just like any other "sharp object" for them. Its us who know the importance. So the promoters should have taken the call not Gurdas Maan !
It was really an unfortunate incident and blaming GM for all this is nothing less than stupidity.
As far as i can think, it all goes to the promoters of the show. Given the rules in Canada, they should have ensured this that people wearing kirpaans won’t be troubled. And after something like this happened, it could have been resolved on the spot.
To be honest and true, kiraan is just like any other “sharp object” for them. Its us who know the importance. So the promoters should have taken the call not Gurdas Maan !
Gurdas Maan is a disgrace. He associates himself with enemies of the Sikh nation and butchers and criminals like KPS Gill. I don't know why any Sikh in his right mind will ever go and see his concert. As a singer he is at best "C" grade.
LONG LIVE BABBA GURDAS MAAN KEEP OF HIS BACK GET A LIFE ALLAH HOO ALLAH HOO MOLLA HI MOLLA
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Gurdas Maan is a disgrace. He associates himself with enemies of the Sikh nation and butchers and criminals like KPS Gill. I don’t know why any Sikh in his right mind will ever go and see his concert. As a singer he is at best “C” grade.
LONG LIVE BABBA GURDAS MAAN KEEP OF HIS BACK GET A LIFE ALLAH HOO ALLAH HOO MOLLA HI MOLLA
[writing in all caps will get you banned — Admin]
while we are arguing all sort of topics here god knows why there is silence on behalf of admin and my brothers and sisters on the future of the SIKH CHANNEL in UK which is struggling with its funding and is the only 24 hour Sikh religious channel….shouldn't we as a community get together and support a channel which is the only visual media tool to spread the goodness of our great religion….there are countless Islamic religious channels in UK but they are lucky that they are supported by a rich country like Saudi Arabia…but we are not so lucky so lets get together as one panth one religion and one SIKH community and support this good initiative,THE SIKH CHANNEL on sky 840
while we are arguing all sort of topics here god knows why there is silence on behalf of admin and my brothers and sisters on the future of the SIKH CHANNEL in UK which is struggling with its funding and is the only 24 hour Sikh religious channel….shouldn’t we as a community get together and support a channel which is the only visual media tool to spread the goodness of our great religion….there are countless Islamic religious channels in UK but they are lucky that they are supported by a rich country like Saudi Arabia…but we are not so lucky so lets get together as one panth one religion and one SIKH community and support this good initiative,THE SIKH CHANNEL on sky 840
Hi Amerdeep Sidhu
The concert on Aug 1 2009 in Vancouver was a great show with alot of people wearing kirpans. Same promoters.
Hi Amerdeep Sidhu
The concert on Aug 1 2009 in Vancouver was a great show with alot of people wearing kirpans. Same promoters.
KS; The promoters were lazy and didn't check and confirm details. If you follow the news the venue claimed they would have made accommodations for the kirpan if they knew before hand. Of course, this is a cop out considering hours earlier they stated a much harsher statement towards it all. In other words, they flip floped in the face of pressure.
What pressure? The Supreme court of canada has long since ruled Kirpans are okay. You can wear kirpans to courts, and many other places, without any issue due to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. So, essentially, they broke a law that was already proven.
They realized that anything including a persons hands can be used as a weapon and it's ultimately what's inside someone's head that will determine whether they are aggressive or not.
I am not sure if a kirpan has ever been stolen from a sikh and used as a weapon by a third person.
This happened to Gurdaas in England as well, in Wembley stadium. I can't speak for any threats towards or against him. They shouldn't be used as an excuse to explain away an entire group.
I like his music a lot, however integrity is something that makes me enjoy musicians even more, and I can't for the life of me understand why he hasn't publicly spoken out on this. He tours north america every year and likely has long relationships with his handlers and promoters. They didn't discuss this? I have my doubts.
KS; The promoters were lazy and didn’t check and confirm details. If you follow the news the venue claimed they would have made accommodations for the kirpan if they knew before hand. Of course, this is a cop out considering hours earlier they stated a much harsher statement towards it all. In other words, they flip floped in the face of pressure.
What pressure? The Supreme court of canada has long since ruled Kirpans are okay. You can wear kirpans to courts, and many other places, without any issue due to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. So, essentially, they broke a law that was already proven.
They realized that anything including a persons hands can be used as a weapon and it’s ultimately what’s inside someone’s head that will determine whether they are aggressive or not.
I am not sure if a kirpan has ever been stolen from a sikh and used as a weapon by a third person.
This happened to Gurdaas in England as well, in Wembley stadium. I can’t speak for any threats towards or against him. They shouldn’t be used as an excuse to explain away an entire group.
I like his music a lot, however integrity is something that makes me enjoy musicians even more, and I can’t for the life of me understand why he hasn’t publicly spoken out on this. He tours north america every year and likely has long relationships with his handlers and promoters. They didn’t discuss this? I have my doubts.
gurdas is a "has been". All of his recent albumns blow but noone has the guts to tell him. Boot Polish? come on. He's has a ton of botex injections and looks down right scary close up-sort of like the joker. He's all about the $$$.
rocco bhaji nu koi rocco lagda hai ohh pagal hoo gaye hann….gurdas mann is the best….khalistani brigade is after his life and there are only 5% khalistani's among sikhs so who care what they say….par bhaji eh rocco bhaji nu rocco
gurdas is a “has been”. All of his recent albumns blow but noone has the guts to tell him. Boot Polish? come on. He’s has a ton of botex injections and looks down right scary close up-sort of like the joker. He’s all about the $$$.
rocco bhaji nu koi rocco lagda hai ohh pagal hoo gaye hann….gurdas mann is the best….khalistani brigade is after his life and there are only 5% khalistani’s among sikhs so who care what they say….par bhaji eh rocco bhaji nu rocco
dear "indian sikh and proud of it".Grow up. It really upsets me that when we fail to hold people accountable for their actions we quickly blame "the boogy man" alas the Khalistani Brigade?!-whatever that is?
Gurdas is a self promoter and a sell out, pure and simple and this has nothing to do with Khalistan.
Hi Rocco
For someone who doesn't like him or his music..you sure do know alot about him : )
dear “indian sikh and proud of it”.Grow up. It really upsets me that when we fail to hold people accountable for their actions we quickly blame “the boogy man” alas the Khalistani Brigade?!-whatever that is?
Gurdas is a self promoter and a sell out, pure and simple and this has nothing to do with Khalistan.
Hi Rocco
For someone who doesn’t like him or his music..you sure do know alot about him : )
yes k, I am a bhangra encyclopedia
yes k, I am a bhangra encyclopedia
lol
the folkhop legends show their true colors
I bet if chamkila was alive he woulda had them write
"NO TURBANS ALLOWED"
folkhop is the arm of the indian govt that seeks to destroy sikhi thru the use of punjabi folk music and is inherently anti bhangra
BTW
brother rocco is a legend and a well respected commander in the punkra army
punkra revolution niggs
scroo this folkhop stuff being advertised as bhangra
gurdass mann never was, nor will ever be bhangra
same goes for bindrakhia, chamkeela, harbhajan mann, waris, or any of your other lipstick wearing folk legends
deal with it
lol
the folkhop legends show their true colors
I bet if chamkila was alive he woulda had them write
“NO TURBANS ALLOWED”
folkhop is the arm of the indian govt that seeks to destroy sikhi thru the use of punjabi folk music and is inherently anti bhangra
BTW
brother rocco is a legend and a well respected commander in the punkra army
punkra revolution niggs
scroo this folkhop stuff being advertised as bhangra
gurdass mann never was, nor will ever be bhangra
same goes for bindrakhia, chamkeela, harbhajan mann, waris, or any of your other lipstick wearing folk legends
deal with it