The opportunity is now. We can make the first ever Sikh Women’s Domestic Violence Shelter.
Did you know a woman is battered in the US every 9 minutes. We cannot stand idle. We must take a stand!
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Congratulations for this endevaour.
Hope it is a great sucess and many of our battered females find solace in it.
Congratulations for this endevaour.
Hope it is a great sucess and many of our battered females find solace in it.
Once again All Sikhs should have trouble with the way this is being presented as a Sikh issue. Especially with the title ‘Sikh Women’s Abuse Center’.
ON this site thelangarhall.com Sikhism itself is rarely discussed, and yet we find the abuse of women associated with the word Sikh on this site.
When the issue of womens abuse has been presented in the past on this site, its been the story of Jasveer Sanghera and her outreach program which seems to affect about 98% of women in the muslim community of the U.K.
So after spending so much time trying to inform others that Sikhism is not a part of brahminism/hinduism.
Sikh find themselves being associated with a primarily muslim community issue (not Islamic) in the abuse of women, and honor killings.
Many of the stories related to happenings in the Sikh Community on this site have to do with adultery, caste, and jealousy (like Jasveer Sanghera who cheated on her loyal first husband and had trouble being with him due to caste).
But if adultery, social standing, and jealousy is what it takes to call these attacks on women ‘honor killings’ then the caucasian western world is full of them with or without calling them a Christian subject matter.
To all Sikh brothers and sisters, at this time india has an incredible A.I.D.S epidemic, there are plenty of Sikh doctors, would it sound proper if we had a “Sikh Women Venereal Disease Treatment Center”.
Don’t go for the leftist hype, these are the same people that get upset when those on the Fake Right start building Gurdwara’s to line their pockets, only difference is now the leftist are building ‘Centers’.
Nor should we be the comfortable middle who calls him or herself a moderate to fit in with everyone. We are Sikhs we are a part of the Real World.
Once again All Sikhs should have trouble with the way this is being presented as a Sikh issue. Especially with the title ‘Sikh Women’s Abuse Center’.
ON this site thelangarhall.com Sikhism itself is rarely discussed, and yet we find the abuse of women associated with the word Sikh on this site.
When the issue of womens abuse has been presented in the past on this site, its been the story of Jasveer Sanghera and her outreach program which seems to affect about 98% of women in the muslim community of the U.K.
So after spending so much time trying to inform others that Sikhism is not a part of brahminism/hinduism.
Sikh find themselves being associated with a primarily muslim community issue (not Islamic) in the abuse of women, and honor killings.
Many of the stories related to happenings in the Sikh Community on this site have to do with adultery, caste, and jealousy (like Jasveer Sanghera who cheated on her loyal first husband and had trouble being with him due to caste).
But if adultery, social standing, and jealousy is what it takes to call these attacks on women ‘honor killings’ then the caucasian western world is full of them with or without calling them a Christian subject matter.
To all Sikh brothers and sisters, at this time india has an incredible A.I.D.S epidemic, there are plenty of Sikh doctors, would it sound proper if we had a “Sikh Women Venereal Disease Treatment Center”.
Don’t go for the leftist hype, these are the same people that get upset when those on the Fake Right start building Gurdwara’s to line their pockets, only difference is now the leftist are building ‘Centers’.
Nor should we be the comfortable middle who calls him or herself a moderate to fit in with everyone. We are Sikhs we are a part of the Real World.
…cont.
In my opinion, a shelter which could address the language and cultural issues, provide education, and tailor itself to meet the needs of these women, would be an asset.
Please clarify, do you believe Sikh women do not need these services and that domestic violence exists only amongst non-Sikhs? Even if domestic violence amongst Sikhs is only 70% of that found in the general populace, is it pointless to reach out to help those Sikh women who are affected by violence, and who would find comfort in services tailored to their language, culture etc.?
Or is it just the name that bothers you? What if the shelter was called ABC Domestic Violence Shelter, but otherwise kept its focus on assisting Sikh women – would you still be opposed?
'Don't believe the Buzz':
Please advise, for those Sikh women who do suffer from domestic violence, what services do you think they should be provided, and how?
This topic has been discussed many times, and if I'm not mistaken, you've opined on it under many different handles, but I am curious to hear what you would like to do to for Sikh women who do suffer such abuse.
I can understand your discomfort with the optics of a title like "Sikh Women's Domestic Violence Shelter" but are you also opposed to the provision of support services and shelter for Sikh women?
Domestic violence may indeed be more prevalent amongst Christians than amongst Sikhs; however, in my experience, Sikh women appear less likely to avail themselves of public services available to them. Some factors behind this hesitation to seek out shelters probably have to do with language barriers, and/or cultural issues.
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'Don't believe the Buzz':
Please advise, for those Sikh women who do suffer from domestic violence, what services do you think they should be provided, and how?
This topic has been discussed many times, and if I'm not mistaken, you've opined on it under many different handles, but I am curious to hear what you would like to do to for Sikh women who do suffer such abuse.
I can understand your discomfort with the optics of a title like "Sikh Women's Domestic Violence Shelter" but are you also opposed to the provision of support services and shelter for Sikh women?
Domestic violence may indeed be more prevalent amongst Christians than amongst Sikhs; however, in my experience, Sikh women appear less likely to avail themselves of public services available to them. Some factors behind this hesitation to seek out shelters probably have to do with language barriers, and/or cultural issues.
…
…cont.
In my opinion, a shelter which could address the language and cultural issues, provide education, and tailor itself to meet the needs of these women, would be an asset.
Please clarify, do you believe Sikh women do not need these services and that domestic violence exists only amongst non-Sikhs? Even if domestic violence amongst Sikhs is only 70% of that found in the general populace, is it pointless to reach out to help those Sikh women who are affected by violence, and who would find comfort in services tailored to their language, culture etc.?
Or is it just the name that bothers you? What if the shelter was called ABC Domestic Violence Shelter, but otherwise kept its focus on assisting Sikh women – would you still be opposed?
P. Singh, it seems you and others like you, are just up to the same tricks of creating fake guilt by using lame rhetorical questioning, so here’s some questions for you to think over.
Why don’t you ask some of your friends in New Mexico, if its ok to name the women’s center
“White Sikh Women’s, Don’t Beat Us or Mistreat Us Center To Save Ourselves From Abusive White Sikh Men”.
What do you think P. Singh? Doesn’t it speak volumes; just think of all the good work that will be done by this title alone. No one should object right?
And the white Sikh community in New Mexico probably have similar statistics to the national average for honor killings like the muslim communities in the U.K, right (or how about 70%)? And if the statistics don’t back up the title then just consider it a pre-emptive strike against any future domestic violence white sikh males will cause upon white Sikh females.
If any of the white male Sikhs in New Mexico disagree or have the audacity to suggest that domestic violence/honor killings are a rarity amongst them, then treat them the same way as the rest of those no good male Sikhs who are always on COPS beating their woman in front of their trailer park home with cameras rolling on cue as Sergeant Pigsby steps out the patrol car with his stun gun (the default of using Sikh by itself means that punjabi men are being referred to).
Why don’t you journalist/bloggers on thelangarhall.com identify with being Sikh?
Most of the time you bloggers use ‘Sikh’ is when you need to draw attention to yourself or to dress up your acnevisited cause.
But you are doing this at the cost of the Entire Sikh Community. Entire Sikh Community in this context refers to those that can be visually identified as a Sikh.
P. Singh, it seems you and others like you, are just up to the same tricks of creating fake guilt by using lame rhetorical questioning, so here’s some questions for you to think over.
Why don’t you ask some of your friends in New Mexico, if its ok to name the women’s center
“White Sikh Women’s, Don’t Beat Us or Mistreat Us Center To Save Ourselves From Abusive White Sikh Men”.
What do you think P. Singh? Doesn’t it speak volumes; just think of all the good work that will be done by this title alone. No one should object right?
And the white Sikh community in New Mexico probably have similar statistics to the national average for honor killings like the muslim communities in the U.K, right (or how about 70%)? And if the statistics don’t back up the title then just consider it a pre-emptive strike against any future domestic violence white sikh males will cause upon white Sikh females.
If any of the white male Sikhs in New Mexico disagree or have the audacity to suggest that domestic violence/honor killings are a rarity amongst them, then treat them the same way as the rest of those no good male Sikhs who are always on COPS beating their woman in front of their trailer park home with cameras rolling on cue as Sergeant Pigsby steps out the patrol car with his stun gun (the default of using Sikh by itself means that punjabi men are being referred to).
Why don’t you journalist/bloggers on thelangarhall.com identify with being Sikh?
Most of the time you bloggers use ‘Sikh’ is when you need to draw attention to yourself or to dress up your acnevisited cause.
But you are doing this at the cost of the Entire Sikh Community. Entire Sikh Community in this context refers to those that can be visually identified as a Sikh.
'Don't believe the Buzz',
You didn't answer my questions. The questions were not rhetorical and I genuinely want to know what you propose and would like to offer those Sikh women who do suffer from abuse.
From your rant above, it seems that it is more the title of the shelter that bothers you. As you'll note, I did ask you if it was simply a matter of optics. Again, if the name of the shelter was different, would you still be opposed to support services and shelter for Sikh women who are victims of domestic violence?
'Don't believe the Buzz',
You didn't answer my questions. The questions were not rhetorical and I genuinely want to know what you propose and would like to offer those Sikh women who do suffer from abuse.
From your rant above, it seems that it is more the title of the shelter that bothers you. As you'll note, I did ask you if it was simply a matter of optics. Again, if the name of the shelter was different, would you still be opposed to support services and shelter for Sikh women who are victims of domestic violence?
Don't believe the Buzz, in addition to not answering the questions that were posed, you have made a number of statements requiring followup.
1. I don't have any friends in New Mexico, or, for that matter, know anyone in New Mexico. Why would you make such a statement? Do you believe I am affiliated with 3HO? Do you believe 'white Sikhs' are party to a conspiracy to demean Sikhs-at-large? Please clarify why you made this statement.
2. You write, "Why don’t you journalist/bloggers on thelangarhall.com identify with being Sikh?"
Why do you assume I do not identify with being Sikh? That is a stupid assumption. Furthermore, why do you group together all journalists and bloggers on this site? My views are my own and not vetted by some grand council of moderators.
Don't believe the Buzz, in addition to not answering the questions that were posed, you have made a number of statements requiring followup.
1. I don't have any friends in New Mexico, or, for that matter, know anyone in New Mexico. Why would you make such a statement? Do you believe I am affiliated with 3HO? Do you believe 'white Sikhs' are party to a conspiracy to demean Sikhs-at-large? Please clarify why you made this statement.
2. You write, "Why don’t you journalist/bloggers on thelangarhall.com identify with being Sikh?"
Why do you assume I do not identify with being Sikh? That is a stupid assumption. Furthermore, why do you group together all journalists and bloggers on this site? My views are my own and not vetted by some grand council of moderators.
3. You write: “Most of the time you bloggers use ‘Sikh’ is when you need to draw attention to yourself or to dress up your acnevisited cause.”
Please clarify – what is my “acnevisited cause”?
4. “Entire Sikh Community in this context refers to those that can be visually identified as a Sikh.”
Being a turbaned, bearded, amritdhari Sikh, I’m pretty sure I’m part of the “Entire Sikh Community”. You do not speak for the “Entire Sikh Community”.
3. You write: “Most of the time you bloggers use ‘Sikh’ is when you need to draw attention to yourself or to dress up your acnevisited cause.”
Please clarify – what is my “acnevisited cause”?
4. “Entire Sikh Community in this context refers to those that can be visually identified as a Sikh.”
Being a turbaned, bearded, amritdhari Sikh, I’m pretty sure I’m part of the “Entire Sikh Community”. You do not speak for the “Entire Sikh Community”.
P. Singh When you read the portion of the post I wrote about ‘White Sikhs’, it is doubtful you imagined a white sikh looking like keanu reeves, toby mcguire, or kirsten dunst.
However it’s more probable that you thought of someone that wore a puggari/keski (both male and female) that had some of the five symbols visible, beard, and bana.
It would almost seem improper to have this image of a white Sikh meshed with a wife beater.
I hope the Sikhs in New Mexico would never allow a title such as ‘White Sikh Female Abuse Center to Stop White male Sikh abusive behavior ’ no matter how much money was pledged to them.
Now take off white in front of Sikh, the default image in the majority of minds would be that when Sikh is mentioned the image is of a punjabi with Puggari/Keski (female with a chunni), beard, and some of the five symbols visible.
But the writers (jodha, reema, sundari) on thelangarhall.com don’t really care too much in their articles on how this image is portrayed when they toss the word Sikh around in the title ‘Sikh women abuse center’. They only care when it come to using the word for donations or to bash morality of Sikhs, or to prop up their left minded agenda so they can be viewed as authoritative Sikh writers.
Those who associate themselves more with being punjabi are not going to defend Sikhism. They will welcome the term Sikh abusers over punjabi abuser. For them it becomes more of a reason to leave Sikhism altogether. However, No one is being asked to pick between being punjabi or a Sikh, however it is Sikhism that has given us and the rest of humanity some dignity.
I highly doubt any white Sikh that loves the Sikh Faith would associate being Sikh with the word abuse, even if they are in an abusive relationship. Most likely they would look to Sikhism more than any other Faith to give them the inner courage to battle.
P. Singh When you read the portion of the post I wrote about ‘White Sikhs’, it is doubtful you imagined a white sikh looking like keanu reeves, toby mcguire, or kirsten dunst.
However it’s more probable that you thought of someone that wore a puggari/keski (both male and female) that had some of the five symbols visible, beard, and bana.
It would almost seem improper to have this image of a white Sikh meshed with a wife beater.
I hope the Sikhs in New Mexico would never allow a title such as ‘White Sikh Female Abuse Center to Stop White male Sikh abusive behavior ’ no matter how much money was pledged to them.
Now take off white in front of Sikh, the default image in the majority of minds would be that when Sikh is mentioned the image is of a punjabi with Puggari/Keski (female with a chunni), beard, and some of the five symbols visible.
But the writers (jodha, reema, sundari) on thelangarhall.com don’t really care too much in their articles on how this image is portrayed when they toss the word Sikh around in the title ‘Sikh women abuse center’. They only care when it come to using the word for donations or to bash morality of Sikhs, or to prop up their left minded agenda so they can be viewed as authoritative Sikh writers.
Those who associate themselves more with being punjabi are not going to defend Sikhism. They will welcome the term Sikh abusers over punjabi abuser. For them it becomes more of a reason to leave Sikhism altogether. However, No one is being asked to pick between being punjabi or a Sikh, however it is Sikhism that has given us and the rest of humanity some dignity.
I highly doubt any white Sikh that loves the Sikh Faith would associate being Sikh with the word abuse, even if they are in an abusive relationship. Most likely they would look to Sikhism more than any other Faith to give them the inner courage to battle.
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