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	<title>Comments on: SGPC President: &#8220;Sikh religion doesn&#8217;t permit&#8230;jeans&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Meena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Sikhi preaches gender equality it stands to reason that men in jeans, tight t-shirts and sleeveless attire are distracting to females so they should also wear traditional dress aka Nihang dress whether in Europe, North America or Asia...only way to go!!!!!!! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Sikhi preaches gender equality it stands to reason that men in jeans, tight t-shirts and sleeveless attire are distracting to females so they should also wear traditional dress aka Nihang dress whether in Europe, North America or Asia&#8230;only way to go!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sara SIngh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara SIngh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Taliban (SGPC and some Sikh Males!) 
 
Lets drag Sikhi into the medieval ages!  Let&#039;s blame and whip women for getting rape too since they bought it upon themselves! 
 
In the last 25 years I have seen the status of Sikh men deteriorate from well to do males in Indian society to subservient second class citizens...it only stands to reason that in order to feel like men they have now started to dominate and demoralize women...welcome to the world Sikh niggers! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Taliban (SGPC and some Sikh Males!) </p>
<p>Lets drag Sikhi into the medieval ages!  Let&#039;s blame and whip women for getting rape too since they bought it upon themselves! </p>
<p>In the last 25 years I have seen the status of Sikh men deteriorate from well to do males in Indian society to subservient second class citizens&#8230;it only stands to reason that in order to feel like men they have now started to dominate and demoralize women&#8230;welcome to the world Sikh niggers!</p>
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		<title>By: Sikhi Aaj Kal &#124; The Langar Hall</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/sikhi/sgpc-president-sikh-religion-doesnt-permitjeans/comment-page-1/#comment-22042</link>
		<dc:creator>Sikhi Aaj Kal &#124; The Langar Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Takht, SGPC, Akali Dal, and all the other historic institutions who seem to be tied up in other pressing issues rather than investing in meaningful parchar and programs to bring wavering Sikhs (especially youth) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Takht, SGPC, Akali Dal, and all the other historic institutions who seem to be tied up in other pressing issues rather than investing in meaningful parchar and programs to bring wavering Sikhs (especially youth) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ibadat Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ibadat Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sikh Sahib (poster above),

What does wearing jeans have to do with good culture and ethics?  Please state ethical violations associated with wearing jeans and/or how they negate Sikh culture?  Modesty is definitely a virtue, but please jeans leave alone.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sikh Sahib (poster above),</p>
<p>What does wearing jeans have to do with good culture and ethics?  Please state ethical violations associated with wearing jeans and/or how they negate Sikh culture?  Modesty is definitely a virtue, but please jeans leave alone.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sikh</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/sikhi/sgpc-president-sikh-religion-doesnt-permitjeans/comment-page-1/#comment-14051</link>
		<dc:creator>Sikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our brave sikhs can live with Sundari in jungle with getting distracted by her beauty, why our today&#039;s sikh can&#039;t control there emotions. Why are we stopping our young generation to be modest.
Why we can&#039;t teach them a good culture and ethics. Why we always try to control a women and not ourselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our brave sikhs can live with Sundari in jungle with getting distracted by her beauty, why our today&#8217;s sikh can&#8217;t control there emotions. Why are we stopping our young generation to be modest.<br />
Why we can&#8217;t teach them a good culture and ethics. Why we always try to control a women and not ourselves</p>
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		<title>By: yellowchaddi</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/sikhi/sgpc-president-sikh-religion-doesnt-permitjeans/comment-page-1/#comment-13966</link>
		<dc:creator>yellowchaddi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prabsharanbir Singh&#039;s analysis was, as always, extremely insightful.  But it led me to the following question: What about wearing a &quot;G-string&quot; chaddi &lt;strong&gt;underneath&lt;/strong&gt; a proper shalwar-kameez?  I wonder if this would be acceptable to the SGPC?

The problem is we&#039;re going to have to draw the line somewhere, or as a Faith community, we&#039;re always going to be limited to these meaningless debates and controversies.

Instead of demoralizing women who wear jeans and pissing people off, Makkhar could have made a blanket comment about &quot;modesty&quot; and supported it with reference to Sikh Scripture.  Any rational person would have accepted this viewpoint.  In addition, as the head of the SGPC, Makhar should be less concerned with &quot;jeans&quot;, and more concerned with bringing the youth back into Sikhi rather then alienating them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prabsharanbir Singh&#8217;s analysis was, as always, extremely insightful.  But it led me to the following question: What about wearing a &#8220;G-string&#8221; chaddi <strong>underneath</strong> a proper shalwar-kameez?  I wonder if this would be acceptable to the SGPC?</p>
<p>The problem is we&#8217;re going to have to draw the line somewhere, or as a Faith community, we&#8217;re always going to be limited to these meaningless debates and controversies.</p>
<p>Instead of demoralizing women who wear jeans and pissing people off, Makkhar could have made a blanket comment about &#8220;modesty&#8221; and supported it with reference to Sikh Scripture.  Any rational person would have accepted this viewpoint.  In addition, as the head of the SGPC, Makhar should be less concerned with &#8220;jeans&#8221;, and more concerned with bringing the youth back into Sikhi rather then alienating them.</p>
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		<title>By: trying to be better sikh</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/sikhi/sgpc-president-sikh-religion-doesnt-permitjeans/comment-page-1/#comment-13950</link>
		<dc:creator>trying to be better sikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok i read all ur views. i m a teenager
the topic isnt so intresting to me.
ok everyone has his/her views.
so i&#039;ll just say that clothes doesnt matter. its upto human how long he/she controls his/her mind.
some say small clothes causes rape like stuff i dont agree. bcoz if the rapist wanna rape he will rape even if female is wearing more than one clothes. bcoz the mind is behind the motive. clothes doesnt matter for rape.
moreover some dislike that wearing jeans and all that modern stuff so on this i would say that wear the thing that is comfortable. if u think clother are reason for rape then i think all early men were rapist hahahaah..... think abt it
we should not make symbols about clothes. it doesnt means that sikh cant wear jeans etc. 
more over i think if jeans or modern were available at times of our sikh gurus i think some people may be wearing jeans at that time. now this question can be answered by those who lived at those times. currently none is available. hahah...
ya i agree to some point that some of thegirls or women whatever u call not only in sikh religion but also in other weaar modern clothes intentionally to lure boys etc.
its common now a days. even if the girls doent feels comfortable wearing that stuff but she still wears reason to lure boys. i m not commenting on all girls but some girls have this nature.
some girls feel superior when lot of boys roam behind her.
same is the nature of some boys they want more than one girlfriends they feel superior then unfortunately i got none haha...
i too wear jeans but only in which i feel comfortable. 
i love turban i love my beard. 
proud to be sikh trying to improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok i read all ur views. i m a teenager<br />
the topic isnt so intresting to me.<br />
ok everyone has his/her views.<br />
so i&#8217;ll just say that clothes doesnt matter. its upto human how long he/she controls his/her mind.<br />
some say small clothes causes rape like stuff i dont agree. bcoz if the rapist wanna rape he will rape even if female is wearing more than one clothes. bcoz the mind is behind the motive. clothes doesnt matter for rape.<br />
moreover some dislike that wearing jeans and all that modern stuff so on this i would say that wear the thing that is comfortable. if u think clother are reason for rape then i think all early men were rapist hahahaah&#8230;.. think abt it<br />
we should not make symbols about clothes. it doesnt means that sikh cant wear jeans etc.<br />
more over i think if jeans or modern were available at times of our sikh gurus i think some people may be wearing jeans at that time. now this question can be answered by those who lived at those times. currently none is available. hahah&#8230;<br />
ya i agree to some point that some of thegirls or women whatever u call not only in sikh religion but also in other weaar modern clothes intentionally to lure boys etc.<br />
its common now a days. even if the girls doent feels comfortable wearing that stuff but she still wears reason to lure boys. i m not commenting on all girls but some girls have this nature.<br />
some girls feel superior when lot of boys roam behind her.<br />
same is the nature of some boys they want more than one girlfriends they feel superior then unfortunately i got none haha&#8230;<br />
i too wear jeans but only in which i feel comfortable.<br />
i love turban i love my beard.<br />
proud to be sikh trying to improve.</p>
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		<title>By: H Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>H Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prabhsharanbir Singh,

1. How is Sikh concept of soul-bride(feminine mode) different from the Islamic Sufi concept of soul-bride(feminine mode)?

2. You said all Gurbani is written in feminine mode which is conductive to meeting Akal Purakh. Could you elaborate on how &quot;feminine mode&quot; is conductive and on what criterion you conclude that all Gurbani is written in faminine mode?

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prabhsharanbir Singh,</p>
<p>1. How is Sikh concept of soul-bride(feminine mode) different from the Islamic Sufi concept of soul-bride(feminine mode)?</p>
<p>2. You said all Gurbani is written in feminine mode which is conductive to meeting Akal Purakh. Could you elaborate on how &#8220;feminine mode&#8221; is conductive and on what criterion you conclude that all Gurbani is written in faminine mode?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: KPS GILL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KPS GILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jaspreet Kaur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaspreet Kaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree entirely with Prabhsharanbir Singh&#039;s post, and I don&#039;t think most of the posters here disagree with his suggestion that Sikh women should respect their bodies and dress accordingly.  With that said, I do think this article is disappointing because once again, it demonstrates Sikh leaders&#039; inability to inspire. 


Instead of offering us a spiritual vision of why modesty is important for Sikh women and how proper attire can actually take us to new spiritual heights, the SGPC resorted to appealing to feudal insecurities about female sexuality (&quot;hip-hugging denims and bare female arms are too provocative and liable to distract male teachers and students&quot;).  I don&#039;t think this is simply attributable to laziness on the part of the SGPC or brevity of the article writers, but points to a more persistant issue: Sikh leaders&#039; discourse stays in the realm of the psychological or social but rarely offers us a spiritual vision. When it comes to Sikh women&#039;s issues, Sikh leaders have never known how to talk about them.  Their statements are always awkward and/or offensive, even when they needn&#039;t be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree entirely with Prabhsharanbir Singh&#8217;s post, and I don&#8217;t think most of the posters here disagree with his suggestion that Sikh women should respect their bodies and dress accordingly.  With that said, I do think this article is disappointing because once again, it demonstrates Sikh leaders&#8217; inability to inspire. </p>
<p>Instead of offering us a spiritual vision of why modesty is important for Sikh women and how proper attire can actually take us to new spiritual heights, the SGPC resorted to appealing to feudal insecurities about female sexuality (&#8221;hip-hugging denims and bare female arms are too provocative and liable to distract male teachers and students&#8221;).  I don&#8217;t think this is simply attributable to laziness on the part of the SGPC or brevity of the article writers, but points to a more persistant issue: Sikh leaders&#8217; discourse stays in the realm of the psychological or social but rarely offers us a spiritual vision. When it comes to Sikh women&#8217;s issues, Sikh leaders have never known how to talk about them.  Their statements are always awkward and/or offensive, even when they needn&#8217;t be.</p>
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