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		<title>By: The Langar Hall &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sometimes I am Arab even though I am a Sikh</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Langar Hall &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sometimes I am Arab even though I am a Sikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] today, as I see the political discourse allowing for sinister Arabophobia and Muslimophobia, I stand in solidarity and say &#8220;Yes I am Arab&#8230;.even though I am a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Langar Hall &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UN spotlight on racism in the US</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/politics/a-systemic-sickness/comment-page-1/#comment-2352</link>
		<dc:creator>The Langar Hall &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UN spotlight on racism in the US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had a lot of discussion recently about various forms of identity discrimination. It seems that the UN is also paying [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rani</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/politics/a-systemic-sickness/comment-page-1/#comment-2266</link>
		<dc:creator>Rani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 05:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had heard about the same incident on news radio this morning. It just pisses me off and reminds me of how the sggs was disrespected in a similar manner during 1984. The irony enrages me ... democratic nations who peach tolerance decide to shoot the holy books of others. 

Also, I can’t believe that a simply apology is seen as enough on behalf of the Bush administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had heard about the same incident on news radio this morning. It just pisses me off and reminds me of how the sggs was disrespected in a similar manner during 1984. The irony enrages me &#8230; democratic nations who peach tolerance decide to shoot the holy books of others. </p>
<p>Also, I can’t believe that a simply apology is seen as enough on behalf of the Bush administration.</p>
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		<title>By: sizzle</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/politics/a-systemic-sickness/comment-page-1/#comment-2252</link>
		<dc:creator>sizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 06:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I cannot help but draw a link between this incident and the patka burning incident from last week.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

eh - a hate crime is a hate crime (if you want to classify shooting a quran as a hate crime, which you seem to be doing)- they&#039;re all similar in the regard that they&#039;re precipitated on hostility towards a group or what that group represents.  so, you can draw the parrallel between those two incidents just as easily as you can draw the parallel between shooting a quran, burning a patka, and spray painting &quot;n*gger&quot; on someone&#039;s house.

but, i think you&#039;re drawing the parallel to make this point...

&lt;blockquote&gt;However, while &lt;strong&gt;promoting this type of behavior at home&lt;/strong&gt;, the Bush administration is trying to foster Arab and Muslim allies abroad. However, the two are linked and this accounts for another systemic failure and contradiction in the Bush doctrine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


are you &lt;em&gt;directly&lt;/em&gt; attributing that one patka burning incident to Bush&#039;s policies?  &lt;em&gt;seriously&lt;/em&gt;?  because if you are, my god, you lose some serious credibility.  i hate to point out the obvious, but anti-immigrant, xenophobic, and racist sentiments have existed for quite a long time. if you&#039;d like to sit on my knee, i can regale you with stories of what happened to me, my patka, and my pugh in schoolyards during the 1980&#039;s and 1990&#039;s. and that&#039;s the most simplistic critique of your analogy and hilariously broad indictment of Bush&#039;s actions, or maybe inaction in sheltering those perceived as muslims from the sentiments of ignorant americans to your liking.  but beyond the possible PR blitz that another president might have have launched to protect us, there is one nagging question:  what is this &quot;Bush Doctrine&quot; that you evoke, and what impact does it have on a few dumbsh*ts who engage in crimes against percieved muslims?  the reason i ask, of course, is because as a sardar who was in college when 9/11 went down, i can tell you that i felt, every day, the ill effects of heightened islamophobia a hell of a lot more then and in the immediate years thereafter than i do now, when this alleged &quot;Bush Doctrine&quot; has been in place for a few years.

anyways, i&#039;m no Bush apologist in the very least, but i hate it when he is set up as a straw man to explain social injustice, when, quite frankly, there are many other, far more significant factors in play.    remember when the muslim kid held down the sikh grade schooler and cut off his hair?  yea...if the kid wasn&#039;t muslim, we might be chalking up that to bush too, right?  but no, who knows wtf was going on there. here?  the sikh kid may have been been perceived as muslim, and some dumbass redneck might have lit his patka on fire. but, instead of venting and knee-jerk blaming Bush for allegedly creating and fostering an environment of hostility, and drawing far fetched analogies between two wholly different types of wrongs to make some contorted point, why don&#039;t we just address the problem that this happens, has been happening for decades, and just as Sikh Coalition and the parents are doing now, it is incumbent upon us to ensure it doesn&#039;t happen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I cannot help but draw a link between this incident and the patka burning incident from last week.</p></blockquote>
<p>eh &#8211; a hate crime is a hate crime (if you want to classify shooting a quran as a hate crime, which you seem to be doing)- they&#8217;re all similar in the regard that they&#8217;re precipitated on hostility towards a group or what that group represents.  so, you can draw the parrallel between those two incidents just as easily as you can draw the parallel between shooting a quran, burning a patka, and spray painting &#8220;n*gger&#8221; on someone&#8217;s house.</p>
<p>but, i think you&#8217;re drawing the parallel to make this point&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>However, while <strong>promoting this type of behavior at home</strong>, the Bush administration is trying to foster Arab and Muslim allies abroad. However, the two are linked and this accounts for another systemic failure and contradiction in the Bush doctrine.</p></blockquote>
<p>are you <em>directly</em> attributing that one patka burning incident to Bush&#8217;s policies?  <em>seriously</em>?  because if you are, my god, you lose some serious credibility.  i hate to point out the obvious, but anti-immigrant, xenophobic, and racist sentiments have existed for quite a long time. if you&#8217;d like to sit on my knee, i can regale you with stories of what happened to me, my patka, and my pugh in schoolyards during the 1980&#8217;s and 1990&#8217;s. and that&#8217;s the most simplistic critique of your analogy and hilariously broad indictment of Bush&#8217;s actions, or maybe inaction in sheltering those perceived as muslims from the sentiments of ignorant americans to your liking.  but beyond the possible PR blitz that another president might have have launched to protect us, there is one nagging question:  what is this &#8220;Bush Doctrine&#8221; that you evoke, and what impact does it have on a few dumbsh*ts who engage in crimes against percieved muslims?  the reason i ask, of course, is because as a sardar who was in college when 9/11 went down, i can tell you that i felt, every day, the ill effects of heightened islamophobia a hell of a lot more then and in the immediate years thereafter than i do now, when this alleged &#8220;Bush Doctrine&#8221; has been in place for a few years.</p>
<p>anyways, i&#8217;m no Bush apologist in the very least, but i hate it when he is set up as a straw man to explain social injustice, when, quite frankly, there are many other, far more significant factors in play.    remember when the muslim kid held down the sikh grade schooler and cut off his hair?  yea&#8230;if the kid wasn&#8217;t muslim, we might be chalking up that to bush too, right?  but no, who knows wtf was going on there. here?  the sikh kid may have been been perceived as muslim, and some dumbass redneck might have lit his patka on fire. but, instead of venting and knee-jerk blaming Bush for allegedly creating and fostering an environment of hostility, and drawing far fetched analogies between two wholly different types of wrongs to make some contorted point, why don&#8217;t we just address the problem that this happens, has been happening for decades, and just as Sikh Coalition and the parents are doing now, it is incumbent upon us to ensure it doesn&#8217;t happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: The Langar Hall &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A policy of Islamophobia or old fashioned xenophobia?</title>
		<link>http://thelangarhall.com/politics/a-systemic-sickness/comment-page-1/#comment-2249</link>
		<dc:creator>The Langar Hall &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A policy of Islamophobia or old fashioned xenophobia?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 05:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] violence breaking out in South Africa reminded me of the Islamophobia that Jodha posted on. The man certainly looked dead, lying motionless in the dust of the squatter [...]</description>
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