Mumbai- November 26, 2008

If you haven’t already come across this link, CNN-IBN isTaj_Mahal_Hotel.jpg streaming live (though the worst of the violence is definitely over).

Even by the standards of terrorism in India, which has suffered a rising number of terrorist attacks this year, the assaults were particularly brazen and dramatically different in their scale and execution. Rarely for India, the attackers specifically targeted sites popular with tourists… Unlike previous attacks in India this year, which consisted of anonymously planted bombs, the assailants on Wednesday night were spectacularly well-armed andconfrontational.[IHT]

There are still 5 hostages being held in the Oberoi and operations to rescue them are ongoing.

The latest numbers, according to CNN-IBN say 87 killed, 187 injured. Those are, of course, the official numbers. The IHT says preliminary reports say 240 injured.

If you have family and/or friends in the city, I hope they’re safe.


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48 Responses to “Mumbai- November 26, 2008”

  1. Reema says:

    Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US's anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.

  2. Reema says:

    Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US’s anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.

  3. Reema says:

    Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US’s anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.

  4. Reema says:

    Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US’s anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.

  5. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment="9128"]Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US's anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.[/quote]

    Yeah – that is nightmarish…then again, it's not like Modi has needed the facade of legislation to do horrible things i.e. killing Muslims in Gujrat.

    Hmmm…what is Modi going to do to Bunty, Pappu, and Sweety when he finds out they are sending emails pertaining to human rights abuses and other such nefarious, anti-India (sarcasm) subjects? Do they just get 'disappeared', or will they get their day in a kangaroo court?

    Is India sub-leasing any part of Gitmo?

  6. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9128″]Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US’s anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.[/quote]

    Yeah – that is nightmarish…then again, it’s not like Modi has needed the facade of legislation to do horrible things i.e. killing Muslims in Gujrat.

    Hmmm…what is Modi going to do to Bunty, Pappu, and Sweety when he finds out they are sending emails pertaining to human rights abuses and other such nefarious, anti-India (sarcasm) subjects? Do they just get ‘disappeared’, or will they get their day in a kangaroo court?

    Is India sub-leasing any part of Gitmo?

  7. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9128″]Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US’s anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.[/quote]

    Yeah – that is nightmarish…then again, it’s not like Modi has needed the facade of legislation to do horrible things i.e. killing Muslims in Gujrat.

    Hmmm…what is Modi going to do to Bunty, Pappu, and Sweety when he finds out they are sending emails pertaining to human rights abuses and other such nefarious, anti-India (sarcasm) subjects? Do they just get ‘disappeared’, or will they get their day in a kangaroo court?

    Is India sub-leasing any part of Gitmo?

  8. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9128″]Narendra Modi, in response to whether the BJP would again be pushing for stricter anti-terror laws, cited the US’s anti-terror efforts post-9/11 (specifically technological methods, i.e. Patriot Act) as a proper model. Grrreat.[/quote]

    Yeah – that is nightmarish…then again, it’s not like Modi has needed the facade of legislation to do horrible things i.e. killing Muslims in Gujrat.

    Hmmm…what is Modi going to do to Bunty, Pappu, and Sweety when he finds out they are sending emails pertaining to human rights abuses and other such nefarious, anti-India (sarcasm) subjects? Do they just get ‘disappeared’, or will they get their day in a kangaroo court?

    Is India sub-leasing any part of Gitmo?

  9. please stop says:

    I can't believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi's politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.

  10. please stop says:

    I can’t believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi’s politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.

  11. please stop says:

    I can’t believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi’s politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.

  12. please stop says:

    I can’t believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi’s politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.

  13. please stop says:

    Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.

  14. please stop says:

    Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.

  15. please stop says:

    Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.

  16. please stop says:

    Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.

  17. Kaptaan says:

    "please stop", yes it does seem quite unseemly to start ranting about Narendra Modi, when people are likely dying, being injured or in the process of being sewn back together as we "speak"… however, I'm not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

  18. Kaptaan says:

    “please stop”, yes it does seem quite unseemly to start ranting about Narendra Modi, when people are likely dying, being injured or in the process of being sewn back together as we “speak”… however, I’m not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

  19. Kaptaan says:

    “please stop”, yes it does seem quite unseemly to start ranting about Narendra Modi, when people are likely dying, being injured or in the process of being sewn back together as we “speak”… however, I’m not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

  20. Kaptaan says:

    “please stop”, yes it does seem quite unseemly to start ranting about Narendra Modi, when people are likely dying, being injured or in the process of being sewn back together as we “speak”… however, I’m not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

  21. Singh says:

    We shouldn't be to quick to believe the reports that it is a Muslim group responsible for this. India's track record would say it is likely a fanatic hindu group linked to the Indian Government. The veil always comes off .. just like how the Indian navy sunk a unarmed Thai fishing vessel not a pirate ship. Or like how it was the Indian Government responsible for the massacre of Sikhs in Kashmir. These Gov't backed groups are always faking terror attacks to justify their continued persecution of various peoples within India. Sad .. many people will die in this terror attack .. more sad .. many many more Muslims will be killed on the streets of India afterwords but the later will not receive any sympathy from the world media.

  22. Singh says:

    We shouldn’t be to quick to believe the reports that it is a Muslim group responsible for this. India’s track record would say it is likely a fanatic hindu group linked to the Indian Government. The veil always comes off .. just like how the Indian navy sunk a unarmed Thai fishing vessel not a pirate ship. Or like how it was the Indian Government responsible for the massacre of Sikhs in Kashmir. These Gov’t backed groups are always faking terror attacks to justify their continued persecution of various peoples within India. Sad .. many people will die in this terror attack .. more sad .. many many more Muslims will be killed on the streets of India afterwords but the later will not receive any sympathy from the world media.

  23. Singh says:

    We shouldn’t be to quick to believe the reports that it is a Muslim group responsible for this. India’s track record would say it is likely a fanatic hindu group linked to the Indian Government. The veil always comes off .. just like how the Indian navy sunk a unarmed Thai fishing vessel not a pirate ship. Or like how it was the Indian Government responsible for the massacre of Sikhs in Kashmir. These Gov’t backed groups are always faking terror attacks to justify their continued persecution of various peoples within India. Sad .. many people will die in this terror attack .. more sad .. many many more Muslims will be killed on the streets of India afterwords but the later will not receive any sympathy from the world media.

  24. Singh says:

    We shouldn’t be to quick to believe the reports that it is a Muslim group responsible for this. India’s track record would say it is likely a fanatic hindu group linked to the Indian Government. The veil always comes off .. just like how the Indian navy sunk a unarmed Thai fishing vessel not a pirate ship. Or like how it was the Indian Government responsible for the massacre of Sikhs in Kashmir. These Gov’t backed groups are always faking terror attacks to justify their continued persecution of various peoples within India. Sad .. many people will die in this terror attack .. more sad .. many many more Muslims will be killed on the streets of India afterwords but the later will not receive any sympathy from the world media.

  25. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment="9137"]I can't believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi's politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.[/quote]

    Your outrage has a hollow ring to it. Modi's butchery in Gujrat colors him, and will forever. Who he is, what he says, is tainted by his actions in Gujrat.

    I didn't go from talking about the attacks in Mumbai to Modi's politics. Modi brought up the subject of the attacks in Mumbai – my comment merely serves to point out this is the same Modi who went Hitler in Gujrat. Again, he is tainted. Everything he says smells rotten.

    Did the government of India punish Modi for his actions? Has the government of India punished the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi Riots? You better believe I'm blasting the government of India for the impugnity it provides such criminal politicians.

  26. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment="9137"]I can't believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi's politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.[/quote]

    Your outrage has a hollow ring to it. Modi's butchery in Gujrat colors him, and will forever. Who he is, what he says, is tainted by his actions in Gujrat.

    I didn't go from talking about the attacks in Mumbai to Modi's politics. Modi brought up the subject of the attacks in Mumbai – my comment merely serves to point out this is the same Modi who went Hitler in Gujrat. Again, he is tainted. Everything he says smells rotten.

    Did the government of India punish Modi for his actions? Has the government of India punished the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi Riots? You better believe I'm blasting the government of India for the impugnity it provides such criminal politicians.

  27. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9137″]I can’t believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi’s politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.[/quote]

    Your outrage has a hollow ring to it. Modi’s butchery in Gujrat colors him, and will forever. Who he is, what he says, is tainted by his actions in Gujrat.

    I didn’t go from talking about the attacks in Mumbai to Modi’s politics. Modi brought up the subject of the attacks in Mumbai – my comment merely serves to point out this is the same Modi who went Hitler in Gujrat. Again, he is tainted. Everything he says smells rotten.

    Did the government of India punish Modi for his actions? Has the government of India punished the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi Riots? You better believe I’m blasting the government of India for the impugnity it provides such criminal politicians.

  28. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9137″]I can’t believe that you went from talking about the Mumbai attacks to a discussion of Modi’s politics and blasting all of India for human rights abuses because of him, even asking whether India is subleasing part of Guantanamo Bay?!. Show some respect please.

    And with the constant terror attacks that India has faced this year, obviously something needs to be done for better intelligence gathering. I think most Indians would agree at this point, just as most Americans did after 9/11.[/quote]

    Your outrage has a hollow ring to it. Modi’s butchery in Gujrat colors him, and will forever. Who he is, what he says, is tainted by his actions in Gujrat.

    I didn’t go from talking about the attacks in Mumbai to Modi’s politics. Modi brought up the subject of the attacks in Mumbai – my comment merely serves to point out this is the same Modi who went Hitler in Gujrat. Again, he is tainted. Everything he says smells rotten.

    Did the government of India punish Modi for his actions? Has the government of India punished the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi Riots? You better believe I’m blasting the government of India for the impugnity it provides such criminal politicians.

  29. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment="9138"]Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.[/quote]

    No one has equated the riots in Gujrat to the Patriot Act. What are you talking about? And what should I be thinking about?

    That a butcher like Modi is proposing legislation that will effectively impinge on every Indian's basic rights, and remove judicial supervision of such impingement? Is that it?

  30. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9138″]Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.[/quote]

    No one has equated the riots in Gujrat to the Patriot Act. What are you talking about? And what should I be thinking about?

    That a butcher like Modi is proposing legislation that will effectively impinge on every Indian’s basic rights, and remove judicial supervision of such impingement? Is that it?

  31. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9138″]Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.[/quote]

    No one has equated the riots in Gujrat to the Patriot Act. What are you talking about? And what should I be thinking about?

    That a butcher like Modi is proposing legislation that will effectively impinge on every Indian’s basic rights, and remove judicial supervision of such impingement? Is that it?

  32. P.Singh says:

    [quote comment=”9138″]Also, how is something like the Patriot Act even on the same scale as the riots in Gujarat??

    Perspective. Please get some. And think before you type next time.[/quote]

    No one has equated the riots in Gujrat to the Patriot Act. What are you talking about? And what should I be thinking about?

    That a butcher like Modi is proposing legislation that will effectively impinge on every Indian’s basic rights, and remove judicial supervision of such impingement? Is that it?

  33. Camille says:

    however, Im not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian government’s propaganda re: the identity of “terror groups” (I’m not arguing this isn’t a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reema’s comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are “otherized” from the Nationalist conversation.

  34. Camille says:

    however, I’m not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian government's propaganda re: the identity of "terror groups" (I'm not arguing this isn't a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reema's comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are "otherized" from the Nationalist conversation.

  35. Camille says:

    however, Im not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian government’s propaganda re: the identity of “terror groups” (I’m not arguing this isn’t a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reema’s comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are “otherized” from the Nationalist conversation.

  36. Camille says:

    however, Im not surprised when people immediately begin to deflect from the, more often than not, Islam-inspired terror taking place in front of their eyes.

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian government’s propaganda re: the identity of “terror groups” (I’m not arguing this isn’t a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reema’s comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are “otherized” from the Nationalist conversation.

  37. please stop says:

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian government’s propaganda re: the identity of “terror” groups (I’m not arguing this isn’t a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reema’s comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are “otherized” from the Nationalist conversation.

    Oh my god Camille. I've followed your comments on Sepia Mutiny and I usually have so much respect for your intelligent comments. But this is just ridiculous garbage. Why is 'terror' in quotes?? What do you mean by 'agency argument'?? I can't believe you're calling this 'propaganda' from the Indian government either. Yes, often the GOI is quick to blame Pakistan, but there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE already that the terrorists came from Pakistan, and even U.S. intelligence has confirmed links to the ISI, not to mention the fact that the weapons they have most likely came from the Pakistani military. Deal with the FACTS, not what you wish were true in your idealistic leftist world!

    I am not blaming all Muslims or advocating reprisal of ANY sort. God forbid that were to happen; I want Indians to show that they are better than that. But the fact is that the terrorists ARE Muslim and most likely part of an extremist Islamic group (LeT) that calls itself "pious," implying religious motivation. I DO NOT THINK that this means that Islam is to blame, so stop trying to paint me as some sort of bigot just because I acknowledge the truth.

    P. Singh – Modi had not commented on the attacks at the point that you made your first comment about him. And you were the one that said that Modi would not need legislation like the Patriot Act to justify horrific things like the riots in Gujarat. No, the government of India has not punished Modi or the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi massacre, and that is a shame. But it hasn't managed to punish the perpetrators of numerous terrorists over the years either; it's generally incapable due to the constant squabbling over petty issues among politicians, and due to the lack of any central, de-politicized agency. But of course you're not outraged about the deaths of civilians that can essentially be blamed on the Pakistani government, because you only have it out against the Indian government. I am not going to bother talking to you anymore.

    Singh – Your comment smacks of bitter conspiracy theory. Listen to yourself! You sound like a crazy, ignorant fool.

    This blog seems to full of virulent India-haters, especially Phulkari. I can understand where the anger is coming from, but I also don't think it's right to tarnish a whole country of one billion people because of the lack of action of some members of the government twenty-four years ago. I invite you to see how you would've been treated in Pakistan as non-Muslims, since India apparently the MOST EVIL county EVER.

  38. please stop says:

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian governments propaganda re: the identity of terror groups (Im not arguing this isnt a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reemas comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are otherized from the Nationalist conversation.

    Oh my god Camille. I’ve followed your comments on Sepia Mutiny and I usually have so much respect for your intelligent comments. But this is just ridiculous garbage. Why is ‘terror’ in quotes?? What do you mean by ‘agency argument’?? I can’t believe you’re calling this ‘propaganda’ from the Indian government either. Yes, often the GOI is quick to blame Pakistan, but there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE already that the terrorists came from Pakistan, and even U.S. intelligence has confirmed links to the ISI, not to mention the fact that the weapons they have most likely came from the Pakistani military. Deal with the FACTS, not what you wish were true in your idealistic leftist world!

    I am not blaming all Muslims or advocating reprisal of ANY sort. God forbid that were to happen; I want Indians to show that they are better than that. But the fact is that the terrorists ARE Muslim and most likely part of an extremist Islamic group (LeT) that calls itself “pious,” implying religious motivation. I DO NOT THINK that this means that Islam is to blame, so stop trying to paint me as some sort of bigot just because I acknowledge the truth.

    P. Singh – Modi had not commented on the attacks at the point that you made your first comment about him. And you were the one that said that Modi would not need legislation like the Patriot Act to justify horrific things like the riots in Gujarat. No, the government of India has not punished Modi or the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi massacre, and that is a shame. But it hasn’t managed to punish the perpetrators of numerous terrorists over the years either; it’s generally incapable due to the constant squabbling over petty issues among politicians, and due to the lack of any central, de-politicized agency. But of course you’re not outraged about the deaths of civilians that can essentially be blamed on the Pakistani government, because you only have it out against the Indian government. I am not going to bother talking to you anymore.

    Singh – Your comment smacks of bitter conspiracy theory. Listen to yourself! You sound like a crazy, ignorant fool.

    This blog seems to full of virulent India-haters, especially Phulkari. I can understand where the anger is coming from, but I also don’t think it’s right to tarnish a whole country of one billion people because of the lack of action of some members of the government twenty-four years ago. I invite you to see how you would’ve been treated in Pakistan as non-Muslims, since India apparently the MOST EVIL county EVER.

  39. please stop says:

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian governments propaganda re: the identity of terror groups (Im not arguing this isnt a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reemas comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are otherized from the Nationalist conversation.

    Oh my god Camille. I’ve followed your comments on Sepia Mutiny and I usually have so much respect for your intelligent comments. But this is just ridiculous garbage. Why is ‘terror’ in quotes?? What do you mean by ‘agency argument’?? I can’t believe you’re calling this ‘propaganda’ from the Indian government either. Yes, often the GOI is quick to blame Pakistan, but there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE already that the terrorists came from Pakistan, and even U.S. intelligence has confirmed links to the ISI, not to mention the fact that the weapons they have most likely came from the Pakistani military. Deal with the FACTS, not what you wish were true in your idealistic leftist world!

    I am not blaming all Muslims or advocating reprisal of ANY sort. God forbid that were to happen; I want Indians to show that they are better than that. But the fact is that the terrorists ARE Muslim and most likely part of an extremist Islamic group (LeT) that calls itself “pious,” implying religious motivation. I DO NOT THINK that this means that Islam is to blame, so stop trying to paint me as some sort of bigot just because I acknowledge the truth.

    P. Singh – Modi had not commented on the attacks at the point that you made your first comment about him. And you were the one that said that Modi would not need legislation like the Patriot Act to justify horrific things like the riots in Gujarat. No, the government of India has not punished Modi or the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi massacre, and that is a shame. But it hasn’t managed to punish the perpetrators of numerous terrorists over the years either; it’s generally incapable due to the constant squabbling over petty issues among politicians, and due to the lack of any central, de-politicized agency. But of course you’re not outraged about the deaths of civilians that can essentially be blamed on the Pakistani government, because you only have it out against the Indian government. I am not going to bother talking to you anymore.

    Singh – Your comment smacks of bitter conspiracy theory. Listen to yourself! You sound like a crazy, ignorant fool.

    This blog seems to full of virulent India-haters, especially Phulkari. I can understand where the anger is coming from, but I also don’t think it’s right to tarnish a whole country of one billion people because of the lack of action of some members of the government twenty-four years ago. I invite you to see how you would’ve been treated in Pakistan as non-Muslims, since India apparently the MOST EVIL county EVER.

  40. please stop says:

    I think we should play it real careful before buying into the Indian governments propaganda re: the identity of terror groups (Im not arguing this isnt a terrorist act, but I am skeptical about the agency argument here). The point I took from Reemas comment on Modi is that people will use any opportunity to a) blame this on a minority group, and b) advocate for policies that restrict the liberties of free/innocent people, particularly those who are otherized from the Nationalist conversation.

    Oh my god Camille. I’ve followed your comments on Sepia Mutiny and I usually have so much respect for your intelligent comments. But this is just ridiculous garbage. Why is ‘terror’ in quotes?? What do you mean by ‘agency argument’?? I can’t believe you’re calling this ‘propaganda’ from the Indian government either. Yes, often the GOI is quick to blame Pakistan, but there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE already that the terrorists came from Pakistan, and even U.S. intelligence has confirmed links to the ISI, not to mention the fact that the weapons they have most likely came from the Pakistani military. Deal with the FACTS, not what you wish were true in your idealistic leftist world!

    I am not blaming all Muslims or advocating reprisal of ANY sort. God forbid that were to happen; I want Indians to show that they are better than that. But the fact is that the terrorists ARE Muslim and most likely part of an extremist Islamic group (LeT) that calls itself “pious,” implying religious motivation. I DO NOT THINK that this means that Islam is to blame, so stop trying to paint me as some sort of bigot just because I acknowledge the truth.

    P. Singh – Modi had not commented on the attacks at the point that you made your first comment about him. And you were the one that said that Modi would not need legislation like the Patriot Act to justify horrific things like the riots in Gujarat. No, the government of India has not punished Modi or the perpetrators of the 1984 Delhi massacre, and that is a shame. But it hasn’t managed to punish the perpetrators of numerous terrorists over the years either; it’s generally incapable due to the constant squabbling over petty issues among politicians, and due to the lack of any central, de-politicized agency. But of course you’re not outraged about the deaths of civilians that can essentially be blamed on the Pakistani government, because you only have it out against the Indian government. I am not going to bother talking to you anymore.

    Singh – Your comment smacks of bitter conspiracy theory. Listen to yourself! You sound like a crazy, ignorant fool.

    This blog seems to full of virulent India-haters, especially Phulkari. I can understand where the anger is coming from, but I also don’t think it’s right to tarnish a whole country of one billion people because of the lack of action of some members of the government twenty-four years ago. I invite you to see how you would’ve been treated in Pakistan as non-Muslims, since India apparently the MOST EVIL county EVER.

  41. please stop says:

    Oh and of course before the whole ordeal was even complete, someone on your blog had to post some PC screed about how “terrorism has no religion.” If this was the Malegaon blasts, would we be so insistent to label the terrorists as “terrorists with a certain interpretation of Hinduism” and not as “Hindu terrorists”? Or if this were Christians who bombed an abortion clinic? Note that I am NOT saying that I think that the ’cause’ is Islam; I am simply NOTING the fact that the terrorists are Muslim and linked to group (LeT) that claims religious motivations. Who cares if it’s not what other Muslims practice?? People are still dead. And note that groups like LeT wouldn’t be so hard for even the Pakistani government to punish if they didn’t have widespread support among local people in Pakistan.

    I have no idea why the left defends Muslim terrorists so much.

  42. please stop says:

    Oh and of course before the whole ordeal was even complete, someone on your blog had to post some PC screed about how “terrorism has no religion.” If this was the Malegaon blasts, would we be so insistent to label the terrorists as “terrorists with a certain interpretation of Hinduism” and not as “Hindu terrorists”? Or if this were Christians who bombed an abortion clinic? Note that I am NOT saying that I think that the ’cause’ is Islam; I am simply NOTING the fact that the terrorists are Muslim and linked to group (LeT) that claims religious motivations. Who cares if it’s not what other Muslims practice?? People are still dead. And note that groups like LeT wouldn’t be so hard for even the Pakistani government to punish if they didn’t have widespread support among local people in Pakistan.

    I have no idea why the left defends Muslim terrorists so much.

  43. please stop says:

    Oh and of course before the whole ordeal was even complete, someone on your blog had to post some PC screed about how "terrorism has no religion." If this was the Malegaon blasts, would we be so insistent to label the terrorists as "terrorists with a certain interpretation of Hinduism" and not as "Hindu terrorists"? Or if this were Christians who bombed an abortion clinic? Note that I am NOT saying that I think that the 'cause' is Islam; I am simply NOTING the fact that the terrorists are Muslim and linked to group (LeT) that claims religious motivations. Who cares if it's not what other Muslims practice?? People are still dead. And note that groups like LeT wouldn't be so hard for even the Pakistani government to punish if they didn't have widespread support among local people in Pakistan.

    I have no idea why the left defends Muslim terrorists so much.

  44. please stop says:

    Oh and of course before the whole ordeal was even complete, someone on your blog had to post some PC screed about how “terrorism has no religion.” If this was the Malegaon blasts, would we be so insistent to label the terrorists as “terrorists with a certain interpretation of Hinduism” and not as “Hindu terrorists”? Or if this were Christians who bombed an abortion clinic? Note that I am NOT saying that I think that the ’cause’ is Islam; I am simply NOTING the fact that the terrorists are Muslim and linked to group (LeT) that claims religious motivations. Who cares if it’s not what other Muslims practice?? People are still dead. And note that groups like LeT wouldn’t be so hard for even the Pakistani government to punish if they didn’t have widespread support among local people in Pakistan.

    I have no idea why the left defends Muslim terrorists so much.

  45. Camille says:

    Hi there,

    We’ll be closing the comments to this post as well. For further commentary, please feel free to contact the authors.

    “please stop,” feel free to contact me via email. I think there discrepancy in comment has to do with the timing of its posting. It was meant to go up much earlier and was written briefly — I am more than happy to unpack it via email. As for the “Terrorism Has No Religion” post, I would encourage you to re-read it. With respect to “virulent India haters,” I’ll go out on a limb and chalk up your characterization to exasperation. We’re certainly not “India haters,” and there’s no need to take potshots at Phulkari.

  46. Camille says:

    Hi there,

    We’ll be closing the comments to this post as well. For further commentary, please feel free to contact the authors.

    “please stop,” feel free to contact me via email. I think there discrepancy in comment has to do with the timing of its posting. It was meant to go up much earlier and was written briefly — I am more than happy to unpack it via email. As for the “Terrorism Has No Religion” post, I would encourage you to re-read it. With respect to “virulent India haters,” I’ll go out on a limb and chalk up your characterization to exasperation. We’re certainly not “India haters,” and there’s no need to take potshots at Phulkari.

  47. Camille says:

    Hi there,

    We’ll be closing the comments to this post as well. For further commentary, please feel free to contact the authors.

    “please stop,” feel free to contact me via email. I think there discrepancy in comment has to do with the timing of its posting. It was meant to go up much earlier and was written briefly — I am more than happy to unpack it via email. As for the “Terrorism Has No Religion” post, I would encourage you to re-read it. With respect to “virulent India haters,” I’ll go out on a limb and chalk up your characterization to exasperation. We’re certainly not “India haters,” and there’s no need to take potshots at Phulkari.

  48. Camille says:

    Hi there,

    We'll be closing the comments to this post as well. For further commentary, please feel free to contact the authors.

    "please stop," feel free to contact me via email. I think there discrepancy in comment has to do with the timing of its posting. It was meant to go up much earlier and was written briefly — I am more than happy to unpack it via email. As for the "Terrorism Has No Religion" post, I would encourage you to re-read it. With respect to "virulent India haters," I'll go out on a limb and chalk up your characterization to exasperation. We're certainly not "India haters," and there's no need to take potshots at Phulkari.